Lean Mass and cutting cycle in 12 weeks

I just finished a cycle that included Deca, D-Bol, Test prop, anavar and stanazol, I rounded it off with the clenbutrol,I gained 12ks over 6months. I would however like to improve on that, become more hard and lean.

I need help with a good cycle over the next 12 weeks.

I got the following suggestion:

Chlorodehydromethyltestosterone
boldenone undecylenate
trenbolin enanthate
Drostanolone propionate+enanthate
blend of t3,yohimbe,clenbuterol
testosterone propionate
stanazolol
Methenlone enanthate

But all of this at once seems a bit much? Are the no simple cycle which will give good results and with products that I have used before?

Did you run your previous cycle over 6 months? what doses did you take? You also make no mention of a PCT.

it was over 6 months and low dosis like a mil per week. pls ignore my ignorance but what is PCT?

You need to do alot more research before taking juice.PCT is post cylce therapy,which is a cycle of other drugs used to kick you endocrine system back into its hormonal production.Doing a pct after a cycle of steroids is a MUST,it also helps tremendously in maintaining your gains.There is a sticky post on this forum about PCT.Read it then ask your question again.

Bro, if you want to improve on yourself and survive to tell the tail you need to research before jumping on the, uh, "juice pony"...

oh I did do that, just was not too sure about the abreviation, I took clomid 5 days on and 5 days off and 3 shots of pregnyl on the alternating weeks.

Please lay out the exact cycle for all six months, what you took, how much, and when...

Was it your first cycle (I really really hope not )

That suggestion that was given to you who ever that was obviously is supplying u and trying to make money off u. It is way to complex for a beginner. Just stick to the basics.

Considering u don't know what a pct is I would say read and read through this forum.

Learn as much as possible before even considering hoping on the "juice pony" - HAHAAH

Thanks for all the help, It was my first cycle, I got all the stuff from my PT, it was a bit all over the place, not very structured and every week new stuff, that is why I am asking here for a simple easy to follow cycle, the list of the stuff i posted earlier is all the stuff he wants me to buy now, and then take all at once, it did not make sense to me?

it was my first,

I started with Deca 1 ml /week and stanazol 50mg/day in tables this was for like 6 weeks
Then he moved me to Test prop and deca 1 mil/ week and Dbol 50mg/day
Thenk we did test and EQ then I was retaining too much water, then I took clenbutrol for like 4 weeks and then the Clomid 5 days on 5 days off and pregnyl 3 doses every 5 days.

How long has it been since ur last jab like exactly? coz i think u shud get a PCT going of some sort or that 12kgs is gonna go bye bye...

Ah ok so u did get a pct in. At least maybe u will retain some muscle.

What are ur goals btw? and what r ur stats weight, height, BF% ,years training, do u have a diet?

Haha, yes yes inja, we all ride the juice pony :dance

SNOK1986 wrote:

What are ur goals btw? and what r ur stats weight, height, BF% ,years training, do u have a diet?

I am on the last shot of pregnyl now.

My stats are as follows: 1.75, 82kg, BF 11%.

My goals are to gain lean muscle and get very defined, I am training with a PT 4 times a week, he is supposed to be one of the best in JHB. I am on a very low calorie high protein diet from a dietician.

All Im looking for is help with a very simple cycle with guaranteed success.

newguy 1982 wrote:

I am on the last shot of pregnyl now.

My stats are as follows: 1.75, 82kg, BF 11%.

My goals are to gain lean muscle and get very defined, I am training with a PT 4 times a week, he is supposed to be one of the best in JHB. I am on a very low calorie high protein diet from a dietician.

All Im looking for is help with a very simple cycle with guaranteed success.

I like your stats..Juice doesnt give any guarantees,its all about good rest and nutrition and ofcourse training.

You could try this 12wk cycle for lean mass:

PGW supertest - 1ml/wk - 12wks
EQ - 1ml/wk - 12wks
Oral winny - last 4wks @ 30mg/day

tiny wrote:

newguy 1982 wrote:

PGW supertest - 1ml/wk - 12wks
EQ - 1ml/wk - 12wks
Oral winny - last 4wks @ 30mg/day

Why not 2mls super test a week?

How about:

Week 1-4
Test prop 200mg/5 days
EQ 200mg/5 days
Trenbolone 100mg/5 days

Weeek 5-9
Test Prop 200 mg/ 5 days
Trenbolone 200 mg/ 5 days
Winstrols 50mg / day

Week 10-12
Kessar and Prygnal
CYX3
Mastaron

ok dude why are u using masteron in your pct? thats stupid,that cyx3 in pct is going to eat all your muscle that u just put on as t3 is a no no with out anabolic support, how many cycles have u done before cos tren will really do some damage... i suggest a short cycle 6 weeks on,3weeks pct 9 weeks off repeat.. that way u can fit quite a few cycles a year... this will produce lean hard gains

80mg tren acetate
150mg test prop
50mg winstrol

take 1 shot every otherday for 6 weeks. for the duration of the cycle use 60mg turanabol and then u will have enough anabolic support for your cxy3's. pct for 3 weeks and then time off and repeat.

Why the hell are people giving this guy "next cycle advice"? He's months away from thinking about using any gear again!!!

He just finished his first cycle, which involved randomly throwing in whatever his supplier adviced him to for a sum total of 6months, he knows nothing about gear, he knows nothing about PCT, he has not taken the time to learn about what he's doing before jumping on the juice pony, and now e wants to do it all ove ragain?!?

No No my friend. What you need to do is take a few months of the gear, sit round on this forum every night and learn as much as you can about steroids and how to use them responsibly!

Valid point there inja. 100% correct.

Inja wrote:

Why the hell are people giving this guy "next cycle advice"? He's months away from thinking about using any gear again!!!

He just finished his first cycle, which involved randomly throwing in whatever his supplier adviced him to for a sum total of 6months, he knows nothing about gear, he knows nothing about PCT, he has not taken the time to learn about what he's doing before jumping on the juice pony, and now e wants to do it all ove ragain?!?

No No my friend. What you need to do is take a few months of the gear, sit round on this forum every night and learn as much as you can about steroids and how to use them responsibly!

I've been wanting to reply on this topic from when it started but every time I had to stop myself because the replies wouldn't have been what you would call diplomatic! All I can say is: use your brain and think!

Hey bud
If I were you I will have myself checked out by a GP and run some blood work just to be safe, 6 monthes on gear for a beginner is looking for shit. Just hope you haven't got any permenent damage due to the duration of your cycle. Another thing, take Inja's advice and educate yourself before doing another cycle. Be safe. :love

Yes Inja is right educate educate.... you can not educate yourself enough. Even the profesionals educate themselfs their whole life.

I got a friend that got a job over seas a few years back and had 3 months to get his ass there. So a new live awaited and he thought to "QUICKLY" get big and use gear and life will be great.

No. He went on so much gear that he does not know anything about and no PCT. 1 Month in his new country and he sents me pictures of his right chest(BREAST). I said the best advice that I can give him is go to your local GP in Dubai. 1 Month later and a nice scar under the nipple and they cut his Bitch - Tits out.

So do it right first time.