Cutting

Hey fellas

Trying to find out a little info for a mate
He's currently running the same cycle as me (Supertest @ 640mg, Equi @ 350mg per week).

We're both in our 10th week (out of 15) and he's looking to add something to help him cut a bit more as his bodyfat is quite a bit more than mine. He's been happy with the lean gains so far and has hardened up quite a bit, but still wants to drop a bit of BF.

Any opinions on the best substance to stack with his cycle? Clen maybe? And what sort of doses.

Thankyou kindly

Dropping bodyfat is more about a low-calorie diet with cardio than about the drugs.I would say he should complete his cycle as is so as not to interfere with his gains.Then look at shedding fat during and after his Pct.Clen and Eca always come highly recommended.

Cool, was thinking some clen during pct might do the trick.

Nothing elso to harden him up a bit in the last few weeks? He's not too worried about massive gains, just been enjoying the strength so far

if he is holding water then from week 13-17 use winstrol at 50mg every day,heat 2 caps a day and 50mg proviron a day before he starts pct,should harden him up nicely... once pct is done he will need to look at carb cycling to get his body fat down or ketogenic diet his body fat down to more reasonable level.

i used Clen & ECA during my pre-contest diet and it worked like a bomb! especially first thing in the morning cardio.
I also used a Ketotifen based syrup @5ml EOD in the evening to keep my receptors sensitive to the Clen, hence u can use it longer.

thanks dj, sounds good

just one more thing, as good as the win, proviron and heat sounds, its a bit expensive to run all three... Which would you say is the best value for money combo? Not much water on him, mainly BF.
And how long would be the minimum time to get results? Sorry to be a pain but he's a student like me so wont afford the whole lot, gotta compromise
Thanks

Id leave out the proviron, dont really need it unless u wanna harden up even more than what u have already and prevent some estro build up.

u see the reason i have suggested using all of those together is he might suffer from estrogen induced fat storage so using proviron in combination with a-dex would definantly kill estrogen making fat burning better,then using a fat burner such as heat to stimulate the metabolism as well as increase fat loss and winstrol to drop some more water and harden up...

ok understood. but if its not much in the way of water could one leave out the winstrol then? Thanks

SNOK1986 wrote:

Id leave out the proviron, dont really need it unless u wanna harden up even more than what u have already and prevent some estro build up.

Bump this-I think proviron is overpriced for the results, and winny with proviron and test is a lot of dht to handle. I'd go with the winny option. Only thing proviron seemed to do for me is make me shed hair and incessant hardons, which doesn't sound a problem, but it does become a problem.
I found winny was far superior in results and didn't affect me as much from a dht point of view.
Just have to watch the joints.

Yohimbe wrote:

SNOK1986 wrote:

Id leave out the proviron, dont really need it unless u wanna harden up even more than what u have already and prevent some estro build up.

Bump this-I think proviron is overpriced for the results, and winny with proviron and test is a lot of dht to handle. I'd go with the winny option. Only thing proviron seemed to do for me is make me shed hair and incessant hardons, which doesn't sound a problem, but it does become a problem.
I found winny was far superior in results and didn't affect me as much from a dht point of view.
Just have to watch the joints.

Agreed... proviron i would take if i had the extra cash. Good diet will get u your hardness along with adex to prevent estro.