Winstrol, use with what and how much?

Good day,

I have been on The USN route for a while now and I realized that, my budget will never get me where I want to be it is very expensive to maintain a routine and supplemented diet.

I have recently found some Winstrol but need to know the following:
1. How much to inject and when?
2. Do I need any supplements with Winstrol?
3. I follow a power routine 5 days a week at the moment, and need to get a better training schedule and routine?

My current weight is 100KG and I am 183Cm tall.

Please help any does and dont's will be very helpfull.

Beastie.

You must be huge and ripped by now from all the USN? I hear the stuff's fantastic......Please do tell us your USN success story..... :doh

Waist of time and money, will recomend it to my son as snack while he's playing, might keep his enrgy levels normal?

What is your age? How long have you been training for? Do you know your bodyfat%? What is your diet like?
If you supply all your stats I'm sure the Pros will supply you with the relevant info.
P.S. I was only shitting you with the Ultimate Shit Nutrition remark.

Will this be your first cycle Beastie?
Age?
Body Fat estimate?
Workout cycle?
Diet (basics)
Thanks and welcome to the forum.

Gravity wrote:

Will this be your first cycle Beastie?
Age?
Body Fat estimate?
Workout cycle?
Diet (basics)
Thanks and welcome to the forum.

Seems like we got an echo in here ? :woot

North_Boy1 wrote:

Gravity wrote:

Will this be your first cycle Beastie?
Age?
Body Fat estimate?
Workout cycle?
Diet (basics)
Thanks and welcome to the forum.

Seems like we got an echo in here ? :woot

I finally try to help and i get beat to the punch. that's what I get for being a noob!
Curse you North_boy1!

Yes first cycle,
Age:28
Body Fat: 18%
Workout: 1. Session, Legs,Glutes and Back
2. Session, Chest ,Triceps, Shoulders
3. Session, Back ,Bicept,calves
I will rotate the 3 sessions for 5 days and go as heavy as possible with all the weights, putting in exersices on my Stomach, in between set rests.
My workout is explosive and max 1Hour.

My Diet: Breakfast: Fruit, Oats or Bran and a protien supplement,
snack : Another Protien shake or Health bar
Lunch : Patato,Chicken,Hake or Beef,Brocolli
Snack : Repeat snack 1
Dinner : Same as Lunch just another meat and veg.

I have been a lazy gymgoer for a while but decided recently to stop smoking and then really hit the gym hard for the last 2 months now, and I found a new passion!
My Wife also supports me wich helps escpecially with the dieet!HAHA, but yes I would like to reach my goal and have a ripping body ASAP, and although not legal I am sure you can still be safe doing it? Thus the reason i joined, since I will be going this route any way and having a knowledge share tool such as this forum, certainly will help?

ok bud you're diet isn't a shocker but it isn't great either.
email djeasye for a personalised diet. this alone will give you some amazing results.
as for you're training routine, why don't you try the max-ot routine?
alot of guys on here are using it with very good results.
I just don't see how you can keep up maximum intensity in a session where you train legs and back (two huge muscle groups)

get all this in check and then after a year of solid, consistent training consider adding something.
P.S. - winstrol alone will shut you down badly, need to add in some test.
use this time while you perfect you're diet and training to research and learn all you can about the use of AAS

I have really seen some scary things on the web pertaining to this subject:what where and how much?

I still sit with 3 major questions:

1. Winstrol- How much and when/use with what? Test? how much?
2. Any Specific cycle suggestions?
3. And please take note that all forum members are not close to Cape town or JHB, getting sound advise and goods not that easy, therefor I need my start up cycle to be exact and lasting,since I will stock up for the season.

To date I have decided the following:

Will continue with my workout till I figured out my bodies limits and capacity, and I will have to find a new friend since Nomad has too much vibe and stories, will rather ignore that.

Not sure if we may ask in which areas the members live?

beastie read the rules bro,no asking for prices or sources... honestly u can do a whole lot more by actually getting a proper diet and staying off winstrol...

@ Beastie..drop me a mail. i live in cape town. EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED

Appologies dj easye,

I heard that you can assist with a nice diet and maybe workout routine that will suite me personally?

Thanks

mail me at EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED note i do charge

Hey bro,
You are currently 82kg with an additional 18kg of pure jubbly bubbly fat...

You need to drop the bulge first and foremost. So your first diet should be geared towards that. Over the next few months DJ Squirrel Man and the rest of us will help you with your journey, helping you perfect your diet and routine (I agree you cannot train back and legs properly on the same day). Once you have dropped ten kilos you will be 90kg with < 10% body fat. You will already look leaner and meaner. Then you can throw in your first AAS cycle. It will be 0.5g of any long ester test a week followed by an appropriate PCT. Until then, no steroids for you...

Bro, you need to do MAX-OT training, I guarantee that you will never look at another training regime. Been on it for 6 years now...

Diet, diet, diet...good cardio and mass heavy training MAX-OT way...good rest and then look at some AAS.

Google MAX-OT download the PDF and have some reading for the weekend.

The boys will help you out, but help us to help you by taking solid advice and putting it into action.

Much appreciated gents,

I am losing alot of centemeters with my current workout, I have dropped about 6cm around my abdominal area and only lost 3kg ,I am on a very intense workout 5 days a week and I am trying to do heavy intense workouts. I have decided to keep my current programme and untill I can bench my own body weight I will not start my first cycle, and I badly want to, but yeah, what a way to motivate yourself!!

Hi Inja,

I Feel like a student again, swotting all these does and dont's and carbs and dieets etc. Ok I have recently ajusted my diet and seen immediate results please give your views?
Diet :

07:00 - Oats or wholewheat cerial, 1 fruit,and and hake fillet or 2 egg whites with my Protein shake and Creatine since I cannot yet use the Good stuff.

10:00 - Fruit,Protein Shake, and Snack bar

12:00 - Lean meat 150Grams, Vegies(half a cup) and Yogurt.

14:00 - Creatine, Banana,1 slice bread with Peanut butter.

16:00 Gym as hard as I can for 1 hour.(Muscle building Plan I got from a Doctor)

After gym I take another Protein shake, also using some Supplement to help me in the gym.

I can see some results and I can feel my abs under the flabby shit called fat, but just cannot get rid of the last bit of blubber? Please help me with this one, I really do not want to get to skinny and loose all my hard earned weight?

Hey Beastie,
nice to see you're dedicating yourself to this new lifestyle
hows the no smoking going? keeping it up I hope?
ok I know you're post wasn't addressed to me, so I'm just gonna throw in my two cents anyway

you're first meal is alright,
second one, I would drop the fruit (the fructose isn't helping to get you ripped, only beneficial time to have fruit is first thing in the morning when glycogen levels are low and there's no risk in it "spilling over" and being converted into fat) also I have never liked snack bars/protein bars,etc. they don't help at all
you're two o'clock meal needs to change completely, it's two hours before you're workout so you don't need the banana for energy, rather make it the same as you're 12 o'clock meal except for maybe replacing the veggies for brown rice.
lastly I know you finish gym late and it gets a bit tedious but you need to have a good solid meal an hour after training also, a post workout shake isn't enough.

Thanks Jayman,

Every sent is used! I will adapt my Dieet and give feedback.

Yes I am still holding up with the smoking the smell really irritates me especially guys in the gym!

I used to have Post exersize meal and never ate bananas but they seem to give me that extra boost in the gym? Unless it is the new supplements?

I have been using some Nitrox and Gaktec , incredible power gains, I cannot believe the difference, can only imaging what the real stuff does> cannot wait till my first cycle.

Any other tips to prepare for the big day?

if you're using the alpha nitrox from usn, ditch it... not worth the money.
if you feel you need the extra boost then stick to a pre workout supplement, anabolic nitro if you're keen on sticking with USN otherwise head down to a supplement shop and grab something else
the bananas will give you a bit of energy but since you're trying to loose body fat rather drop them, they have their time and place but it's not in a diet.
you're energy is gonna drop while dieting but go balls to the wall and push through with it man, the results will be worth it
keep up the good work!

Nice Jay.

Beastie, you need to remember that you wont feel good dieting down. Its shit because you are in an energy deficit. Short sugars only after gym and complex carbs the rest of the day. Have you looked at DJ's how to make a diet thread, its got a lot of good key principles.