PGW esten300

Your experiences!!

Love it or loath it?

Oh and to clarify this is not a source check just want some honest opinions from the guys who've run it

all the guys i have recommended cycles to have used the pgw testen and everyone of them have gotten the results they were looking for....ogre used 900mg of testen a week in his pre comp cycle...

I find it very good and always use Testen or prop from PGW in my cycles. Going to try the new stuff soon though...

Thanks guys

Heard the PGW brand is absolute kickass. Cant wait to get my cycle underway asap!!!

good results from it.

keen to try their combo and maybe cyp as well next cycle.

Starting my cycle this week with test combo ..cant wait

Its excellent stuff,the only downside is that it holds alot of water.

tiny wrote:

Its excellent stuff,the only downside is that it holds alot of water.

That's not a downside, because it shows that it is dosed as high as the label says. Nomad doesn't hold water because the dosage is much lower than advertised, so estrogen conversion is low.

This stuff is potent, really I got great results! next time its test prop and tren whoop! what do you think admin?

admin wrote:

tiny wrote:

Its excellent stuff,the only downside is that it holds alot of water.

That's not a downside, because it shows that it is dosed as high as the label says. Nomad doesn't hold water because the dosage is much lower than advertised, so estrogen conversion is low.

Thanks for the heads up

Falkirk107 wrote:

This stuff is potent, really I got great results! next time its test prop and tren whoop! what do you think admin?

Yep, I did Prop and Tren Ace last cycle and it was great.

admin wrote:

Falkirk107 wrote:

This stuff is potent, really I got great results! next time its test prop and tren whoop! what do you think admin?

Yep, I did Prop and Tren Ace last cycle and it was great.

Except for your tits right? Bit of gyno if I'm not mistaken. How much did you gain or did you cut on that cycle?

i would assume you got a lot of lean size, pct regarding such a cycle? i want to do pgw prop and tren ethanate..

why the enanthate with the prop,use acetate with prop.

milktuds wrote:

admin wrote:

Falkirk107 wrote:

This stuff is potent, really I got great results! next time its test prop and tren whoop! what do you think admin?

Yep, I did Prop and Tren Ace last cycle and it was great.

Except for your tits right? Bit of gyno if I'm not mistaken. How much did you gain or did you cut on that cycle?

Yeah, but I always get gyno sides anyway... it was a super cycle and I gained about 8 Kg initially with the Anapolon, but most was water ect and in the end I gained about 3Kg which is good enough for me.

Falkirk107 wrote:

i would assume you got a lot of lean size, pct regarding such a cycle? i want to do pgw prop and tren ethanate..

Yep, see post above...

I used Doctari's PCT, but running it twice as the dosages I used was a little high and want to make sure I'm fully recovered.

I will also use Prop with Tren Ace, but have used Prop with Tren E before PGW released the Ace version.

If I remember correctly Doctari's PCT had Aromasin in right? LP doesn't make that anymore, how come?

milktuds wrote:

If I remember correctly Doctari's PCT had Aromasin in right? LP doesn't make that anymore, how come?

LP discontinued the liquid version as it was absolutely the most horrible stuff you can drink and many customers stopped using it as they couldn't stand the taste. The capsules are being made as we speak and they are just waiting for the labels...

Well i have the adex at hand and i never run a cycle without adex, would rather sacrifice the gains to be safe!!!

I honestly feel thats total crap... regardless of what others might think... I used 2.5mg of letro on my last cycle per day and gained 10kgs and kept every single kg I gained over 4 months. I never bloated, so jeah I could have had more water weight, but the way I did it I grew and kept it all as it was all muscle, ok I have been allot bigger than I am now, so muscle memory could/must have aided a bit, the bottom line is whats the point of putting on 5kgs and keeping 2 or putting on 10 and keeping 3? why not put on 6 and keep 6, then when you go into your pct and you stop the adex/letro (tapper off / replace with nolva) your estrogen levels start to rise a bit and you can actually put on weight during your pct!

00pump wrote:

I honestly feel thats total crap... regardless of what others might think... I used 2.5mg of letro on my last cycle per day and gained 10kgs and kept every single kg I gained over 4 months. I never bloated, so jeah I could have had more water weight, but the way I did it I grew and kept it all as it was all muscle, ok I have been allot bigger than I am now, so muscle memory could/must have aided a bit, the bottom line is whats the point of putting on 5kgs and keeping 2 or putting on 10 and keeping 3? why not put on 6 and keep 6, then when you go into your pct and you stop the adex/letro (tapper off / replace with nolva) your estrogen levels start to rise a bit and you can actually put on weight during your pct!

I Agree 1000%

00pump wrote:

I honestly feel thats total crap... regardless of what others might think... I used 2.5mg of letro on my last cycle per day and gained 10kgs and kept every single kg I gained over 4 months. I never bloated, so jeah I could have had more water weight, but the way I did it I grew and kept it all as it was all muscle, ok I have been allot bigger than I am now, so muscle memory could/must have aided a bit, the bottom line is whats the point of putting on 5kgs and keeping 2 or putting on 10 and keeping 3? why not put on 6 and keep 6, then when you go into your pct and you stop the adex/letro (tapper off / replace with nolva) your estrogen levels start to rise a bit and you can actually put on weight during your pct!

What is crap? Bloating or AI's limiting growth?

well I don't feel it hinders my gains at all... if I do a course I keep what i gain, yes maybe during the course it might feel like, wow, i'm getting results because of the bloat, estrogen causes you to have fat depostits and it really something i chose to avoid on a cyclle, to me the only thing it does is causes problems, gyno, blood pressure, bloat, kidney strain, and the list goes on.

aah okay, but why ace and not enanthate? please give me more information regarding such a cycle. pct everything..

Ace is a short ester, so it' will run lekker with the Prop which is also a short ester. Mix the two in one syringe and pin EOD.