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I HEARD ABOUT DINA BALLS,WHAT DO GUYS THINK ABOUT THE PRODUCT?
Methandienone
Written by Anthony Roberts
Characteristics:
Pharmaceutical Name: Methandienone, Methandrostenolone
Chemical Name: 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-1,4-androstadien-3-one
Empirical Formula: C20H28O2
Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio: 90-210/40-60
Half Life: 6 - 8 Hours
Average Dose: 25-50mgs (as low as 10 and as high as 100 have been reported)
Description:
This was more or less the second Anabolic Steroid ever produced. The first, as we all know was Testosterone, which was produced in the early 1900’s and experimented with by Nazi’s in WW2, in an attempt to produce a better soldier. Russian athletes in the 1953 World Championships as well as the Olympic games then used testosterone with great success. After that, John Zeigler, who was a doctor working with the US Weightlifting Team, began a cooperative project with Ciba to develop an equalizer for US athletes. Flash forward to 1956 and enter Dianabol; the original trade name for Ciba’s Methandrostenolone... but called “Dbol” by athletes. The original package insert said that 10mgs/day was enough to provide full androgen replacement for a man, and Dr. Zeigler recommended that athletes take 5-10mgs/day. Incidentally, this is also the dose that Bodybuilders were reputed to take from then until roughly the 1970’s. Yeah, this was allegedly Arnold’s dose, Zane’s dose, etc. simply stacked with some testosterone. (For any trivia buffs out there, Dan Duchaine’s mail order steroid business operated under the name “The John Zeigler Fan Club”).
Enough with the history lesson, lets get into what this stuff is, and what it does. Well, first off, it’s usually found in pill form, though it can be found as an injectable also (Under the Trade name: Reforvit-B, which is 25mgs of methandrostenolone mixed with B-vitamins). It is a 17aa steroid, which means it has been altered at the 17th Carbon position to survive its’ first pass through your liver, and make it into your blood stream. It’ll raise your blood pressure (4) and is hepatoxic (Liver-Toxic), so be careful with it. Although I have known people to take up to 100mgs/day of this stuff and not suffer any ill-effects, one study looked at that exact dose, and the people involved didn’t suffer any intolerable side effects (7). Lets examine this particular study a bit further, though:
In this study, done in the early 80’s, a very high dose of Dbol (100mgs/day for 6 weeks) decreased plasma testosterone to about 40% of it’s normal value, plasma GH went up about a third, LH dropped to about 80% of it’s original value, and FSH went down about a third also (these are all approximate numbers, for the sake of brevity, but you get the idea). Bodyfat did not go up significantly and Fat Free Mass went up anywhere between 2-7kgs (3.3kgs average gain). The researchers concluded that Dbol increases Fat Free Mass as well as strength and performance. I can only agree, finding this to be the case when I did my first cycle (which was 6weeks of dbol alone at 25mgs/day). I gained roughly 25lbs and kept nearly ! of it. Since then, Dbol has always had a special place in my heart.
As with many other 17aa steroids, Dbol is also a very weak binder to the Androgen Receptor, so most of it’s effects are thought to be non-receptor mediated, and are attributable to other mechanisms (i.e. protein synthesis as indicated by the production of muscle tissue with very high levels of nitrogen, etc. which was indicated in the 100mg/day study). In fact, much of its anabolic effect may be from GH secretion following administration. When Dbol was administered to rats whose pituitary glands had been removed, it actually demonstrated zero anabolic effects (6). Therefore, GH secretion must be a large part of its anabolic activity. Also, it has only had a modest aromatase activity so estrogen doesn’t cause water gain on Dbol, rather (maybe) GH does. This structure also means it only has a modest aromatase activity (2).
When Steroid.com members were polled on their results from Dianabol, an overwhelming majority of them were happy with the result gained from Dianabol and only 10% were dissatisfied. Dianabol has been, and will continue to be, one the most popular oral steroids for gaining mass and strength.
How strong is Dbol? Well, on an mg for mg basis, most people agree that it's stronger than A50. The reason most people don't get the same gains off of Dbol is that almost nobody takes equivalent doses (I mean, I've heard of people taking 150mgs of A50, but not Dbol, although the Dbol would probably provide more solid gains and be less toxic, I suspect).
So how do we incorporate this stuff into our AAS regimen? Clearly, the inclusion of Dbol at any point in a cycle would contribute to gains; however, I’d speculate that Dbol is most regularly used for 2 reasons:
1. At the start of a cycle to “Kick Start” gains
2. As a “Bridge” between cycles to maintain gains
Let’s examine these two uses.
In order to kick start a cycle, usually what you do is incorporate a fast acting oral like dianabol (or anadrol) and combine it with long acting injectables (such as Deca or Eq with some Testosterone). The reasoning here is that the oral (Dbol in this case) will give almost immediate results, while the injectable takes time to produce results. The end result is that you start seeing results within the first week of your cycle and continue up until the end with the injectables. This entails taking anywhere from 25- 50mgs of dbol (although as little as 20mgs or as much as 100mgs have been reported) for 3-6 weeks at the start of a cycle (average time for a “Kick Start” is 4 weeks, though) and then ceasing their use as the injectables start to produce results.
In order to successfully bridge between cycles, (and this means using a low dose of AAS, in this case dbol) you need to recover your natural hormonal levels to pre-cycle levels or to within acceptable parameters, and then you start your next cycle. The idea here is that you won’t lose any gains, but rather a low dose of an AAS will help you maintain them. Typically, you’d use around 10mgs/day of dbol and combine it with an aggressive Post-Cycle Therapy (PCT) course of Nolvadex (and/or Clomid) and HCG. This would give you full androgen replacement from the Dbol and a shot at recovering your natural hormonal levels via the other stuff you are taking. Remember, the 100mg/day dose of dbol in the study we looked at earlier did not suppress Test, LH, or FSH to a degree that would make recovery impossible; And it certainly can not with 1/10th that dose in conjunction with an aggressive PCT.
All in all, this is a very good drug, and a potent tool for quick gains or retaining gains when used properly and safely.
Here’s how your body metabolizes Methandrostenolone:
References:
1. 1 Serakovskii S, Mats'koviak I., Effect of methanedienone (methandrostenolone) onenergy processes and carbohydrate metabolism in rat liver cells, Farmakol Toksikol 1981Mar-Apr;44(2):213-7
2. Brain Res. 1998 May 11;792(2):271-6.
3.Chemfinder. Copyright 2004 CambridgeSoft Corporation. Cambridge, MA, USA.
4. Br Med J. 1975 May 31;2(5969):471-3.
5. www.Steroid.com
6. Steinetz BG, Giannina T, Butler M, Popick FEndocrinology 1972 May;90(5):1396-8
7. Clin Sci (Lond). 1981 Apr;60(4):457-61
8. Steroids. 1984 Dec;44(6):485-95.
9. Vrach Delo. 1983 Nov;(11):34-6. Russian
10. Acta Med Acad Sci Hung. 1975;32(1):27-34
11. 4 Nesterin MF, Budik VM, Narodetskaia RV, Solov'eva GI, Stoianova VG., Effect ofmethandrostenolone on liver morphology and enzymatic activity, Farmakol Toksikol1980 Sep-Oct;43(5):597-601
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Princess Diana never had balls? What you on about!
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so yes i am new to this stuff and are interested so i want to learn more about it before i am going to start using anything! so unless you have any info or advice...... don't reply or comment and i don't mean any disrespect att all!
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@ diezel
If you going to come on the forum and ask question about gear, the bare minimum everyone expects
is at least get the spelling right.
"Dina Balls" was just shocking.
But the link supplied to you will sort you out with most of your questions.
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soon due to a lack of knowlage, please take the advice offered freely on this site,
and use it wisely.
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those are some big balls inja, you going to get massive on that stuff
Yeah man, I dunno what everybodies problem is. I been using that shit for years now and it works like the bomb!!! Expensive to find though, but I got connections with my local museum.
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Oh, Dianabol not Dina balls. Diezel, please stay as far away from steroids as you possibly can, you're going to KILL yourself.
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