PGW Test Enanthate Depot endurance

I find that PGW Test E 300 doesn't nearly last a week.
I inject into the center of my glutes, but it seems to work out quickly.
Therefore I need to readminister the depot at least every 4-5 days.

The older my Test E 300 vial gets the quicker it seems to work out.
And the quicker it works out the more estrogen is aromatased (sensitive nipples).

Does the oil degrade?
Does the preservative degrade?
Is there a possibility that cross contamination may occur inside the vial by the needle. And then degrade the oil.

Or is it a bad batch?
I doubt it as PGW is reputable.
Have they used a different oil? (File Removed)

must say, i find this very strange.

how much test do u take a week? i usually use 600mg plus. i have never had the experience u mentioned. when using the test i usually split the dose. 300mg on sunday and the other 300mg on thursday, as an example. i dont do it for any specific reason other than preference.

PGW is quality gear and by far the best i have used. so strongly doubt a "bad" batch or the "degration" of the compound within the vial.

Could be many other reasons why u feel the way u do. testen is a long ester and would def not cause that considerable drop u mention in 4 days.

to put ur mind at rest, try splitting the dose per week.

obviously the high androgenic compounds like testen will increase ur estrogen and negative feedback as the cycle progresses. do u use anything like tamofixen, nolva, letro?

whats ur stats and ur cycle?

PGW is a quality source.
I am wondering what the cause could be myself.
I will split the dose and see if it corrects the problem.

much appreciated
maxfactor

Negative feedback in the sense of my own test production?

I have completed my cycle a number of months ago.
I use 150mg-5 days to bridge between cycles.
I have been on the bridging cycle since June 22.

I do this because my natural test levels are at the lower end of the normal range.
For some reason this causes depression for me.
I used to be on Hormone replacement by my physician using test E 150mg-10 days. After i had convinced him that the cause was my test levels. I had discovered that my depression disappeared when i went on my first cycle.
I am no longer on the precription Test E
as i found a more affordable alternative .....

I plan my next cycle 17 sep.

you will definately get more helpfull info from netro, djease, admin regarding your physician's prescription and your hormone replacement and depression comments.
i dont want to bullshit u or give u the wrong information regarding that.

for interest sake i am myself treated for chronic depression and have my meds for that. i dont find that the gear has an impact on me in that way. have been told to stay away from the stuff, but its not an option for me. I have identified and adressed my dep triggers and feel the happiest and best ive been in years. but i do believe that AS could have a major negative affect on ppl in the similar situation as me. im not saying that this has anything to do with what u have mentioned. just wanted to mention it as i havent seen this mentioned here before.

by the way, welcome to the forum

Yes, low test will cause depression in anyone. SO this is normal. Was your low test levels something you suffered from before you started cycling or is it a result of you starting to use AAS? If this is a natural problem then did you consider using herbal boosters before starting TRT? Once you start TRT you are on it for life as your body gives up on its own hormone profile. It's like a women being on the pill... If your low test levels started after AAS use then your problem is improper recovery and you need to consider other things like HCG et..

But with that being said how old are you and what is your previous history?

Inja my test levels were just fine, untill i got Mumps at around 16.
This damaged my own test production.
This caused withdrawel and so caused depression.

My test levels were still in the acceptable range(tested at Lancet labs)
but the drop caused the depression.
I also slowly started losing mass.

So it was not caused by AAS.
But i have to admit that as an indirect result of the complication i discovered AAS. And I am very happy that I did.

I have tried the herbal boosters(testo methox-USN), but they don't seem to be effective. I reason that's because Mumps damage the testes.

Will hormone replacement stop my own test production forever?
Will I never be able to get it back? Not even with HCG or clomid?
Because if the apocalypse had to come and world commerce stopped, and I can not get Test, will I shriwel up and die?

I am 21.
I have been on one 3 month cycle of Deca, dianabol.
now i have been on the bridging cycle almost for 3 months.
When the 3 month bridge is complete, I will go on my next cycle of Test E, Deca, letro, finasteride.
And then bridge again.

What do you think?

It's dangerous play bro...

By going onto TRT for life or even running extended cycle it becomes harder and harder to restore full HPTA function. Although you are still in the range now, You run the risk of never getting your balls back to acceptable ranges ever again. If you testes are damages, particularly in their ability to recieve signal, this may significantly worsen your chances of recovery following these long periods of usage.

I understand low testosterone can be a horrible thing, we on this forum all have experience with this although for us it is AAS induced. If you seriously want to consider AAS for life (TRT) then be prepared for the consequences, especially if you plan to have kids one day.
If your levels are low but still normal it may be better to bite the bullet and live with it...
If you do choose to stay on TRT remember to stay healthy, as there are numerous other problems that may accumulate with continuous AAS usage.

TRT is like the last and final result. See a proper hormonal specialistthere are a few in jhb that i know of and some of time are very well educated in AAS.

Ok so now i understand that recovering Natural testosterone after TRT will be very difficult and possibly impossible.
I already knew this but confirmation from experienced people just reinforced it.

That leaves me with a problem. Either I can shrink back to become the average oak, or i can continue and hope for the best. (let me just reiterate that the TRT alleviates my depression and other meds don't)

Some things are more important to others than to some.
Where do you weigh up the risks Vs benefits?

Doing TRT with Test Enanthate is exactly what the doctors do. And they do it in the dosages I do. Health problems like enlarged prostate and elevated liver enzymes (damage) and such do not really occur at TRT dosages.
It basically mimics the natural amount.
The only problem I can see is Natural Test Recovery.

For me sticking a needle in my body once a week and forking out a little money to make life better seems to be worth it.

But I am young and I don’t know everything. Perhaps I am really digging a deep hole for myself.

Anybody else on TRT? Share your experience

maxfactor wrote:

Ok so now i understand that recovering Natural testosterone after TRT will be very difficult and possibly impossible.

This is not true. There are people on long term TRT who
have successfully restarted HPTA with clomid therapy.
Having kids later on is also not a problem.

Running low dose HCG continuously while on TRT is
recommended to keep the Leydig cells stimulated.

Some useful resources on TRT:
forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-health-forum
www.allthingsmale.com/word_docs/TRT.doc
www.allthingsmale.com/word_docs/HCGupdate.doc

Although you believe mumps infection to be the cause
of your low natural testosterone, which would make
your condition primary hypogonadism, it's still
important to be properly evaluated by a urologist
or endocrinologist before you decide on long term
TRT.

You guys must have a look at Ugi's links he has provided.
They are very informative and cover a broad spectrum of topics of interest to us.
Many useful things to pic from.

Yip - all things male - john Crisler - Google for his lectures - very informative.