AS - Acne and another side effect

Good day people,
I need some real expert suggestions and advice here please. I took my last shot of a 12 week Dbol, Testen, Prop, Deca cycle on 3 June 2009 whereafter I did PCT of Clomid, Pregnyl, Letro, Proviron. A month after my last shot I started getting acne(pimples, bumps, blackheads) on my chest. After some research(DJeasye) I bought Tetralysal 300mg antibiotic capsules and took 600mg a day for 14 days. I also apply Oxy10 to my chest on a regular basis. As a youngster I never had acne, not even in my face. It is so embarrasing I can't even take my shirt off to wash my car and the bumps are visible through a t-shirt.
My second problem is even more F#..... embarrasing. When the soldier eventually gets ready for battle and is sent into the battlefield, he fights for a while and then is killed without firing a shot. Sometimes he gets a shot in and then falls over with exhaustion. The enemy doesn't even want to fight him anymore.
I was planning to start my new cycle of Tbol, Testen, Equi, Prop and Masteron at the end of August, but I am scared that my two conditions will get even worse. I so desperately want to look good but I am considering quitting. :blush:

North_Boy1,
The way u describe your second problem is brilliant. Lol
Have you ever used something like 5Rounds, get it from local Pep-Stores. It contains some vits,minerals and herbs to keep your soldier at attention for the duration of battle. You might even fire 5 shots of, like the name suggests. It does help me.

mbov10 wrote:

North_Boy1,
The way u describe your second problem is brilliant. Lol
Have you ever used something like 5Rounds, get it from local Pep-Stores. It contains some vits,minerals and herbs to keep your soldier at attention for the duration of battle. You might even fire 5 shots of, like the name suggests. It does help me.

You are shitting me, right?....From Pep Stores :laugh:

No jokes, from Pep Stores. Can post a pic and more info on the exact ingredients when I get home. It's quite cheap and used about 30min before going into battle. It does make a difference.

dude... that happens its a hormone imbalance...

i have never had acne in my life, but when on a cycle i the odd pimple, when I come off I get more... yes its been a little while but I still feel its a hormone imbalance.. I wouldn't go putting anything else in your body that could fuck with it..

you can get an over the counter cream called skin calm it has some cortisone in it... you can apply that to the area, you need to make sure you masage the cream in VERY HARD.... apply 3 times a day... that stuff works like a machine... it will absorb most of the time, give it a few days to really get rid of the stuff..

remeber one thing your body sometimes when getting rid of toxins lets it come out via the skin and you can get VERY NASTY pimples... I would flush your body and do a proper detox... I would honestly dose up on green tea for 2 weeks, 4/6 cups a day... if that doesn't help then you need to look at doing a harder detox, maybe a grape detox for 2/3 days, only eating grapes / grape juice / green tea and water allowed... that will clean your body out properly...

I would hold the cycle off and sort this out first...

For your second problem that is normal it happens to me... after time it will come right... you can try tribulus which may help... I would suggest proviron but you trying to clean your body out now.... the proviron will get your right back into the swing of things...

but dude, the biggest thing to remeber is to clean your body first then worry about everything else... if it doesn't come right in a month or so I would go get your test and estrogen levels checked as any of these could be the reason for it.. make sure they include free testosterone in your tests.

don't stress!!! as for point 1 make sure your are flushing the toxins out your body... warm water is also good, boil it let it cool and down it.....

peace!

I had the same thing from Sdrol.

Took like month to get him working proper

00pump - Thanks for all the info. I will definitely get the skin calm cream and give it a try. As for the tribulus, I started with PNS Ni-agra directly after my cycle and yesterday changed over to SPS Test Rx. I also had complete blood tests done a month after cycle and everything was in order except test levels. I then started taking proviron and finished the box.
Could something in my diet be responsible for this i.e. Flaxseed oil caps or too much protein?

What was the issue with your test level? too low? what free test ?

I doubt the flaxseed could do anything, I would say it could help if anything... to much protein highly doubtfull.

also, check this out... when you on a cycle your test levels are through the roof (when using test) then you stop... your levels might be balanced for argument sake but you used to functioning on higher levels so you struggle.... my girl knows all about it... when im on a cycle im like a dog on heat when i come off it can be sometimes 2 months before I can even be intimate again and even then its working for half the time then stops to function 2 more months and im balanced again just to start another cycle.... its a never ending issue...

make sure your body is sufficient in zink... aim for 30mg a day... and just give it time... I can tell you I have juiced for years... and I have never been able to 100% recover, don't want to get to porno on the forums but it never gets 100% erect, feels like there is allways space for a bit of extra blood then again could be a million reasons why, age, etc...

you need to take things slowly dont add to many things to the mix as you will never know what is doing what.... your body has the ability to recover on its own it takes time. als if you go into 'battle' with this in your head it could be come psychological... maybe get away and see... back in the day I would say smoke a doobie, lol kidding

for problem 1 I would leave everything else you trying for your skin and just use the skin calm... then detox detox detox.... clean your body out, it sounds like it needs it....

One of the minerals in the product I mentioned is Zinc and it does help me, so agree with 00pump.

Sounds like your PCT never did the job to me. Your blood work showed your testosterone levels never recovered and your still shut down.

Your PCT was

HCG letro Clomid Proviron

I hope these four were well put together but possible problems could be:

1.
You got the party started with the HCG but never ran enough of the SERM. The HCG will get the balls to produce test but also continue the overall HPTA shut down by inhibiting the production of LH. You need a few weeks of the SERM following HCG administration to keep telling the body it needs to make more test after the HCG signal is removed from the body.

2.
You may have run the letro too long. The letro will have told your body to make more aromatase enzymes. When you come off letro there is an estrogen rebound as these enzymes metabolise testosterone into estrogen. This will not only lower testosterone levels but also inhibit testosterone production via increased estrogen levels.

3.
Running the proviron during PCT may further prevent recovery of testosterone production but sending the signal to the body that there is already enough androgens in the system. The proviron may have contributed to impaired recovery. In addition you then took proviron further down the line which may have extended your shut down while making you feel better. It stimulated sex drive directly but provided the negative feedback necessary to further inhibit endogenous testosterone production.

I think you may need to redo your PCT with HCG and a good SERM like tamoxifen.

Inja would you use HCG and Clomid or HCG and Nolva??

North_Boy1 wrote:

mbov10 wrote:

North_Boy1,
The way u describe your second problem is brilliant. Lol
Have you ever used something like 5Rounds, get it from local Pep-Stores. It contains some vits,minerals and herbs to keep your soldier at attention for the duration of battle. You might even fire 5 shots of, like the name suggests. It does help me.

You are shitting me, right?....From Pep Stores :laugh:

lol, sorry, i still cant get over the pep stores...

Wayne wrote:

North_Boy1 wrote:

mbov10 wrote:

North_Boy1,
The way u describe your second problem is brilliant. Lol
Have you ever used something like 5Rounds, get it from local Pep-Stores. It contains some vits,minerals and herbs to keep your soldier at attention for the duration of battle. You might even fire 5 shots of, like the name suggests. It does help me.

You are shitting me, right?....From Pep Stores :laugh:

lol, sorry, i still cant get over the pep stores...

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Wayne, it's true as fuck. I googled it.

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Seems that I'll be at PEP stores this wekend, going to include 5 Rounds in my PCT

Extreme wrote:

Seems that I'll be at PEP stores this wekend, going to include 5 Rounds in my PCT

:nana2 Gonna be there when the doors open tomorrow morning.........

you going to need to be there a few hours before

Lol! Yip, that's the one.
Het julle ouens nou gedink ñ eerlike ou soos ek sal vir julle lieg.
I don't think it can replace anything in your ussual pct. It only contains some B vitamins, saw polmetto, zinc and some herbs.
Daar gaan die naweek baie gespyker word, lol.

oh my word....

I got a pep stores a few doors from where i work, been there once or twice but never noticed that...If you check out the ingriedients, its basically whats in lots of our Test booster suppliments...

lol, whenever i see some of these fancy things at my pharmacists, I always ask and he always says its just bullshit that the blacks want and get bluffed with...they actually think vit E is like the best thing in the world for the soldier....

BRB, gonna go check pep out now...

mbov10 wrote:

Lol! Yip, that's the one.
Het julle ouens nou gedink ñ eerlike ou soos ek sal vir julle lieg.
I don't think it can replace anything in your ussual pct. It only contains some B vitamins, saw polmetto, zinc and some herbs.
Daar gaan die naweek baie gespyker word, lol.

Ek gaan my maer spyker want daar is "Ginseng" en "Cayenne Pepper" ook in. As dit werk gaan ek terug om 'n boks te koop. LOL !!

Hoop dit help julle, en as dit werk hoop ek om ñ bietjie karma te kry. He he he
Dit is op die oomblik 40% goedkoper hier by my, nie dat dit normaalweg te duur is nie.
Moet byvoeg dat van die ander ouens wat dit al gebruik het nie baie beindruk is nie. Ek gebruik dit net as iets ekstra.

@ mbov10
How did you find out about this stuff ???
I'll add it into my PCT so it won't replace any other tab, can't do any harm besides give me VOOOOOMMMAAAA

Wayne wrote:

oh my word....

I got a pep stores a few doors from where i work, been there once or twice but never noticed that...If you check out the ingriedients, its basically whats in lots of our Test booster suppliments...

lol, whenever i see some of these fancy things at my pharmacists, I always ask and he always says its just bullshit that the blacks want and get bluffed with...they actually think vit E is like the best thing in the world for the soldier....

BRB, gonna go check pep out now...

Very true. I once bought a boksie smarties, threw it into one of my empty testbooster containers and sold it to one of the guys I work with. Told him to take 2 before his training. We had a good lough the next day and I gave him his money back.

Extreme wrote:

@ mbov10
How did you find out about this stuff ???
I'll add it into my PCT so it won't replace any other tab, can't do any harm besides give me VOOOOOMMMAAAA

From the blacks. I can speak isiXhosa very well. Speak about spyker now and then, I always say, get as much info as u can on what u love to do. I checked the ingredients and for the price thought it's quite good.

Happyraven wrote:

Inja would you use HCG and Clomid or HCG and Nolva??

Depends if you believe in the big bad scary 19-NOR or not...