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18 Mar 2008 22:36 #1965 by Dean
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Hey Guys

Nice to meet you all im new on the Forum..
Im currently working in the gym enviroment and train everyday. At the moment im on Animal M stack, Whey Synergy and BSN NO Explode.

Im 22, weigh 94.5 , 1.81cm and have +- 19% body fat.
Im looking to put on size, with out the injections etc...hate injections.
I have been looking at Dianabol? What would the dosage be for my size and what would i need post cycle to get my body functioning back to normal again.
What would this stuff cost me +-?

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18 Mar 2008 23:43 #1969 by tiburon
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dbol or Methandrostenolone is very prone to aromatization thus u will carry alot of water... also if u dont take a decent pct u will lose a decent amount of ur gains! dbols main bonus is the fact that it increases protein synthesis...so lots of protein is needed to gain. most users say anything from 20mg to 50mg a day is sufficient..myself personnaly never go above 25mg and hav found great results with it wen combined with other anabolics. i have taken it on its own and i did gain 2 or 3 kg/week for all 4 weeks i was on but i did lose quite a bit wen came off roughly lost 3kgs which was water. if taken then use kessar afterwards and should be pretty good..to avoid bloating use proviron whilst on as u will be like a balloon wen u get on and pop wen u go off. you dont want it too obvious..also shit for stretch marks. dbol is cheap R250 for 100 5mg tabs

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19 Mar 2008 08:32 #1976 by Dean
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kessar and Proviron how much do they go for roughly, did you suffer any major side effects and how long was your cycle for?

Thanks for your help..

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19 Mar 2008 13:13 #1985 by Conan
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Dean I think in your case at 19% bodyfat I would have to ask you if your diet is in order.No point in using anabolics unless you have this aspect sorted out.If I were you losing excess bodyfat would be my main concern.You could try some fat burners (ECA or Clen)

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19 Mar 2008 13:55 #1988 by MxT
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Agreed

No Preservatives. 100% Juice

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19 Mar 2008 21:00 #2005 by tiburon
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if you do a 1800 calorie diet with taking in a crap load of protein expecially nyt tyms then your body fat will drop. proviron can go for anywhere from R180 for 2weeks supply up to R300 depending on source and kessar is about R230 a box of 30x 20mg tabs

honest suggestion is if your wanting some size dbol will work but nothing beats test unfortunately..and test cannot be administerred orally :( only shots!

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19 Mar 2008 22:04 #2010 by Dean
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Where do you guys inject? What does it feel like when you inject Burning? Striking pain? can you use insulin injections for Test?

Give you the low down of my situation.
Took the fat test at Virgin 19% took it with calipers 15%
I weighed in at 108.8kg in Jan now at 94.2kg Lost fat and gaining muscle know it sounds funny.

What would you guys recommend for a starter?
Cycle and Post Cycle to get Test Levels back to normal and with the Least Side Effects?

Thats for the Time so far..

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19 Mar 2008 22:30 #2011 by tiburon
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ok wel to answer ur question no insulin is injected into the skin of ur stomach and not Intramuscularly like test and most other substances. its easiest to use 23guage needles as most substances can be shot with this and a 5ml syringe. i stil jab my ass but lots of guys do their quads or even biceps and delts(ouch) u can get a nurse at pharmacies to jab u if u convince one lol.

cycle all depends on how much u want to spend to be honest! i use to say depo(test cyp) was decent but i was proven wrong wen noticing the diff between a quality test like test enanthate or sustanon250(a blend of 4 testosterones,2 fast acting and 2 slow)

post cycle many believe use clomid pregnyl and kessar but if you are not going extreme with the cycle 40mg kessar a day wil get ur balls back.

for you i would say test enanthate and something like equipose 350 or deca 350 then pct with kessar. the test enanthate is also known as testen 300 from pgw. equi and deca are pricey but dam are they worth it!!!!!!! the test will give you size and the equi will harden u and give u vasculrity aswel as quality gains.

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20 Mar 2008 08:44 #2019 by dirkgreeff
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Dean can i give you a piece of advice? There has been a few stellar posts written over the last few weeks covering absolutely all the bases. Diet; PCT & cycle (is pretty much individual according to ur goals). Have a read and inform urself a bit better first. Just remember juice is not a wonder solution that will give you a "brad pitt" body in 10 weeks there is a shitload of other factors involved. Get one wrong and all the rest suffers.

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20 Mar 2008 09:02 #2021 by Dean
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Hey Dirk

Thanks for the reply Well im loosing weight already..My body is basically cut now now i must just build size.
Eating a high Protein Diet with Carbs in the Morning..
What would you recommend Dirk? or any one else.
What do the injections feel like when injecting?
Thanks guys i must get as much info as possible before i decide what to do

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20 Mar 2008 16:33 #2047 by Doctari
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What do the injections feel like? Brother, it's like a huge lightening bolt hitting your arse !!!
Nah, just kidding. It's all got to do with technique.

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20 Mar 2008 22:29 #2074 by Dean
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Have Decided to go on Dianabol, What kind of cycle should i go on?
25mg a day?? For say 4 weeks saying i use it Monday to Friday?
Then the kessar or Alt how long must I use it post cycle?
The Proviron will i have to take that when i take Dianabol?

I have also heard you can use Milk Thistle to help the Liver a bit.
If anyone can help me out with prices and help on the above please mail me.

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