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27 Feb 2008 13:52 #1354
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Hey,
first comp of the year is looming 28/6,i finished the bulking cycle 2 4 weeks ago.i made some nice gains ,currently 116kg aprox 15% bf 182cm tall.i enter the over 40s .So what would you guys advise next,unfortunatly i dont have unlimited funds.Thanks.
first comp of the year is looming 28/6,i finished the bulking cycle 2 4 weeks ago.i made some nice gains ,currently 116kg aprox 15% bf 182cm tall.i enter the over 40s .So what would you guys advise next,unfortunatly i dont have unlimited funds.Thanks.
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27 Feb 2008 18:36 #1376
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If it's not working,,, take double,,,
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Thats pretty big! you wanna get on something to bring you b/f down without losing muscle mass, ,,,
I've never competed ,,, so I'm not 100% on this
But I'd go with GH ,, T3 ,,, Clen
Masteron / or proviron
Some kind of test,, a long ester like cypionate or enanthate is fine for now ,, but you're probably going to want to switch to propionate in a few weeks time unless you have Arimidex on hand to get you Hard for the show..
and Tren ,, -- if you have an understanding wife
hmmm funds not unlimited .. you can cut out the GH,,
I've never competed ,,, so I'm not 100% on this
But I'd go with GH ,, T3 ,,, Clen
Masteron / or proviron
Some kind of test,, a long ester like cypionate or enanthate is fine for now ,, but you're probably going to want to switch to propionate in a few weeks time unless you have Arimidex on hand to get you Hard for the show..
and Tren ,, -- if you have an understanding wife
hmmm funds not unlimited .. you can cut out the GH,,
If it's not working,,, take double,,,
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27 Feb 2008 18:42 #1377
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hey thanks ,
ja unfortunatley the gh is a bit out of reach .
ja unfortunatley the gh is a bit out of reach .
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27 Feb 2008 19:31 #1378
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Dont worry about GH (it can cause water retention above 3iu's/day in some people)so unless used in a show befoe leave alone in last 2-3 weeks!
Drop the test-cypionate at least 8 weeks out move on to test-proprionate for 3-4 weeks and for the final 4 weeks move to Masteron and Trenbolone(funds allowing)
As far as orals go with Proviron and Winstrol in the last four weeks (Proviron increase dose/day by 25mg per week) and Winstrol 50mg/day for 2 weeks 75mg/day for 3rd week and 100mg/day for last week up to show. Also (if you can find it) Halotestin at 20mg/day for the final 2 weeks before the show can 'harden-up' already lean muscle. Hope this helps!
Drop the test-cypionate at least 8 weeks out move on to test-proprionate for 3-4 weeks and for the final 4 weeks move to Masteron and Trenbolone(funds allowing)
As far as orals go with Proviron and Winstrol in the last four weeks (Proviron increase dose/day by 25mg per week) and Winstrol 50mg/day for 2 weeks 75mg/day for 3rd week and 100mg/day for last week up to show. Also (if you can find it) Halotestin at 20mg/day for the final 2 weeks before the show can 'harden-up' already lean muscle. Hope this helps!
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27 Feb 2008 19:34 #1379
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That will be a great help thanks,will get it sorted in the next week.
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27 Feb 2008 21:36 #1383
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I will support Conan's suggestions, but without the Halotestan. I would rather take Anavar at 40-60mg pday(PGW's) the last 4 weeks and try to hit Proviron the last 2 weeks at atleast 100mg pday. If you are battling with water the last week, use 25mg Spiractin the last 7-10 days out, add in Lasix 20mg twice daily the last 24h if you still carry water. Just like me close to 40, oestrogen is very hard to contain - what I have found to harden up well, is to increase my Kessar to 60mg pday the last 7 days pre-contest.
The last 4 weeks your injectables should consist of:
- Test-prop 100mg every 48 hours
- Winstrol as Conan suggested
- Trenbolin 150-225mg every 2-3 days with ample amounts of water, tender love and care and buckets full of understanding from your wife! Nearly lost mine alive...
- Masteron 50-100mg every 2'nd to 3'rd day depending on how much fat you still carry - obviously, higher dose more regular if BF% still too high.
The last 4 weeks your injectables should consist of:
- Test-prop 100mg every 48 hours
- Winstrol as Conan suggested
- Trenbolin 150-225mg every 2-3 days with ample amounts of water, tender love and care and buckets full of understanding from your wife! Nearly lost mine alive...
- Masteron 50-100mg every 2'nd to 3'rd day depending on how much fat you still carry - obviously, higher dose more regular if BF% still too high.
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27 Feb 2008 23:19 #1389
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Thanks all ,
ok how far out should i look at starting,what dosage of winstrol otherwise i think i could sort out a decent program .
again thanks all.
ok how far out should i look at starting,what dosage of winstrol otherwise i think i could sort out a decent program .
again thanks all.
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28 Feb 2008 18:41 #1417
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Winstrol about 6 weeks out. Remember Winstrol gives you sore joints, you are already suppressing your oestrogen levels(hopefully) 6 weeks out - so, having Winny on board for too long, is going to give really sore joints, sometimes to the extent that it becomes difficult to train. And you don't want to use NSAIDS, as they lead to water retention... So, I think 6 weeks is OK. I did that last year, and then decided to do a second show 6 weeks later - my joints screamed for some oil...
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28 Feb 2008 18:50 #1418
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doc whats ur view of using something like arthroguard along side winstrol? i have been using arthroguard with my winny for the last 3 weeks and i havent experienced the joint pain,and usually by week 2 i can feel the lack of lube...
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