Female Beginner Cycle

I was looking at the Female beginner cycle which includes 5mg Anavar and the Female Stack. Is that not a lot of androgens for a female? I’m really concerned about virilisation.  Can I take just the Female stack alone or the Anavar 5mg alone. Will that be safer and effective? I was thinking about taking a super low dose of clenbuterol as an alternative option. Is 10mg clen effective? Thanx

Right down my wheel house here.

Are you currently menstruating?

Do you have regular periods? If yes how many days between cycles?(Every 25–35 days)


Age of first period:


Cycle length:


Period length:


Flow: ☐ Light ☐ Medium ☐ Heavy


PMS symptoms (rate 1–10):


Common symptoms: ☐ Mood swings ☐ Bloating ☐ Fatigue ☐ Cravings ☐ Cramps


Birth control method (if any):


Type (e.g., pill, IUD, injection, implant):


Name/Brand:


Duration of use:


Has your period ever stopped for 3+ consecutive months?


History of:
☐ PCOS ☐ Endometriosis ☐ Hormonal acne ☐ Miscarriages ☐ Fertility treatment


Current libido (1–10):


Are you pregnant, breastfeeding, or planning to conceive?

Occupation:


Job Activity Level: ☐ Desk-bound ☐ Mixed ☐ Physically Active


Average daily step count:


Daily screen time (hours):


Rate your overall life stress (1–10):


Rate your work stress (1–10):


Rate your home/personal stress (1–10):


How many hours of sleep do you get per night?


Sleep quality (1–10):


Do you use sleep aids (supplements, medication)?


Do you snore?


Do you have diagnosed or suspected sleep apnea?
If suspected, rate severity (1–10):


Alcohol consumption:


Frequency (e.g., daily, weekly):


Typical number of drinks:


Do you smoke or vape?


Do you use recreational drugs? If yes, list substances and frequency:

Do you suffer from ibs?

Is your bowel movement regular?

All of these questions seem a bit much, but women's androgen use is a very complex thing, you make roughly 3-5mg of androgens per week, now you are wanting to take 35mg of anavar and another 100mg of other compounds in female stack, there is going to be complications.

The best bet is to get blood work done, see where your free testosterone is, where your dhea levels are, and if you are on hormonal birth control, start on trt IF YOUR BLOOD WORK SHOWS LOW TESTOSTERONE.

Your first exposure should be non androgens( gh, clen, metformin, long acting insulin, and even telmisartan) and potentially trt, and then add in the androgens and even then, starting at 20mg per week(2.5mg anavar per day or 20mg primo) would be best after a year of non androgens.

Women's bodies are very complex, ibs affects estrogen levels, women are more likely to be hypothyroidism and have hashimotos, and most of the times women dont train hard enough before they jump on androgens.

They also generally have more hormonal issues with regards to cortisol, hence why we would want to check dhea levels as it is a precursor hormone to testosterone and estrogen in the body.

Do you have regular periods? If yes how many days between cycles?(Every 25–35 days): Irregular


Age of first period: 13


Cycle length: irregular cannot give specific number


Period length: 5-7 days


Flow: ☐ Light ☐ Medium ☐ Heavy: Medium to slightly below Heavy, but above medium


PMS symptoms (rate 1–10): I have PMDD. I’d say it is 7-8.


Common symptoms: ☐ Mood swings ☐ Bloating ☐ Fatigue ☐ Cravings ☐ Cramps: all of those symptoms

Birth control method (if any): YES


Type (, pill, IUD, injection, implant): pill


Name/Brand: Yaz Plus


Duration of use: Took it from August 2024 to May 2025 and stopped due to my cycle being irregular and not sure how to take it anymore. Then started again 5 days ago after Gynae consult


Has your period ever stopped for 3+ consecutive months? No


History of:
☐ PCOS ☐ Endometriosis ☐ Hormonal acne ☐ Miscarriages ☐ Fertility treatment: PCOS and Hormonal acne


Current libido (1–10): 1


Are you pregnant, breastfeeding, or planning to conceive? No

Occupation: Unemployed


Job Activity Level: ☐ Desk-bound ☐ Mixed ☐ Physically Active: Mixed


Average daily step count: 7000


Daily screen time (hours): 5 hours.

Rate your overall life stress (1–10): 1


Rate your work stress (1–10): Unemployed


Rate your home/personal stress (1–10): 7. Recently moved back with my parents. Finding it difficult to adjust. Went from living by myself in a peaceful and silent apartment to living in a noisy and cluttered home.


How many hours of sleep do you get per night? 10 hours


Sleep quality (1–10): 4


Do you use sleep aids (supplements, medication)? No, but I have Circadin if I really am struggling to sleep


Do you snore? Allegedly


Do you have diagnosed or suspected sleep apnea? No
If suspected, rate severity (1–10): NA


Alcohol consumption: Nil


Frequency (, daily, weekly): NA


Typical number of drinks: NA


Do you smoke or vape? No


Do you use recreational drugs? If yes, list substances and frequency: No

Do you suffer from ibs? Yes

Is your bowel movement regular? Yes. Once daily

You are going to make your current life situation very bad when you add steroids to stress.  Seem's like you are looking for a quick fix to achieve something in a few weeks? And what is your age btw ?

Ok so the pcos is going to present as higher than normal androgen levels so building muscle isnt going to be an issue.

Your ibs will mean that there is going to be an issue eliminating estrogen, your shbg will most likely be high due to oral birth control..

Your stress and lack of sleep and quality of sleep will be more of an issue for muscle building.

Using a low dose of clen, with metformin will improve insulin sensitivity , but we need to sort out the ibs, is it certain foods thst cause flare ups?

Best bet is get inflammation sorted out, eat maintaince calories and fix your sleep issues out too.

Magnesium before bed, 10mg of boron daily.

Protein at 2.5g per kg, fat at 0.8kg per kg, and then balance carbs, 40% starchy carbs, 30,% veggies, 30% fruit. I don't know what current weight is so can't direct there.

WEight training should be progressive and training max 4-5 days.

Cardio 20x 5 sessions, heart rate 130bpm, plus 8000 steps too.

When I say sort out your sleep issues, we need to get that from a 4/10 to a 10/10. but at least your gut is moving once per day, that's a good sign,but we need to look at the quality of foods you are having to try and regulate your menstrual cycle, even if you are off od your pill. The issue with most pills is they can have an anti-androgen effect, but you are currently suffering from PCOS, so androgens would be high, but there are 4 different types of PCOS: 1 being post-pill PCOS 2. insulin-resistant PCOS. 3. Inflammatory PCOS. 4. adrenal PCOS. We need to figure out which one you have, which will also be largely determined by your diet. Do you have hypothyroidism or Hashimotos?

 

I don’t know how you jumped to that conclusion.

I started bodybuilding in 2016, but I was messing about for 2 years and only took it seriously from 2018. I then started to add powerlifting in 2021 with a focus on squat and bench press. My cardio was cycling, but I stopped that after I fractured my coccyx in 2020. Now it is jogging and walking. I’m 26. I am 170cm and weigh 65kg.

I have IBS-D. I am lactose intolerant. I try to avoid foods with lactose for the most part and lately have been avoiding foods with gluten as well. My gut is cooked (due to previous gut infections) so I am somewhat limited in foods than most people, but my diet is good and I drink 3litres of water daily.

I tested my blood in Jan 2025 and it said my Total Test was 0.5nmol/l, SHBG 118 nmol/l and FAI was 0.4% which is low. I am Euthyroid. I do have microcytic hypochromic anaemia without Iron deficiency. My anaemia doesn’t ever seem to resolve. In January the Hb was 11.1. It has improved from the previous time which was 10.5. But I have no memory of ever having a normal Hb. I have insulin-resistant PCOS. I take Glucophage XR 500mg BD. I honestly don’t think I need it because my glucose and Hba1c are the same whether I am on the meds or not. But I take it regardless. Only started it because I started having what I thought was symptoms due to glucose (red, burning feet and hands). I think it is something autoimmune-related or stress.

I forgot to add, I do have chronic inflammation. I have a CRP above 10 and a raised interleukin 6 which could be contributing to the PCOS and insulin-resistance. I think the inflammation may be caused by my gut. I know I have some absorption issues but I am not sure how to solve it other than avoiding certain foods. Although my iron is normal, perhaps it isn’t being used effectively leading to a low Hb.

CR7M10 wrote:

I don’t know how you jumped to that conclusion.

I started bodybuilding in 2016, but I was messing about for 2 years and only took it seriously from 2018. I then started to add powerlifting in 2021 with a focus on squat and bench press. My cardio was cycling, but I stopped that after I fractured my coccyx in 2020. Now it is jogging and walking. I’m 26. I am 170cm and weigh 65kg.

 

what do you mean you dont know how i jumped to that conclusion? As in im far off the mark, or i got it right?
If youve got chronic inflammation, jogging is going to be a no go. Incline walking yes, jogging no.. also your training should be 4 days, a week and also 2 reps from failure so you can recover.

Ok so looks like you have a combination of insulin resistant pcos, and inflammatory pcos, as well as potentially adrenal pcos. You are like a Rubix cube.

If your HB1Ac is at 11 thats very much pre diabetic territory, and due to the massive amounts of inflammation ( this is not medical advice, and im not a doctor and dont pretend to play one on the internet) but you would be a good candidate for using retatrutide as it will cover the hb1ac aswell as the inflammatory aspect.

So you say you suffer from anemia, that doesn't present with iron deficiency? Do you eat red meat at all?

The low testosterone and high shbg would actually put you in line for trt, the best option is actually getting a free testosterone and dhea and cortisol based blood work done, as we may get away with dhea supplementation prior to trt, or both. Dhea is the precursor hormone to testosterone and estrogen. So if cortisol is high, dhea will be low as they oppose one another.

Get on to the boron(10mg), curcumin twice daily, 400mg magnesium before bed, 20mg zinc, 600mg ashwagandha at night before bed, and 200mg rhodiola in the morning. Get calories to 1800 to start. But id still look deeper.

Do you have blood work for your estrogen and progesterone? And when was the last time your period was regular? Also you said you are euthyroid, just because you are in range doesnt mean you are optimal, the 10 hours of sleep daily, and probaly cold intolerance and high hb1ac may be indicative of thyroid levels being low and potentially hashimotos from the chronic inflammation, sometimes you have to treat the body of evidence more so than treating the blood work..if you are feeling like a snail in a salt patch, but your blood work is in "range" that doesn't mean its correct for you.

Have you got your thyroid panel? T3 t4 and tsh?

Honestly, I would get some more blood work done, 

Thyroid panel including antibodies.
cortisol morning 
fasting insulin and fasting glucose to see the homa IR levels as you may actually be a candidate for lantus to pull that hb1ac down.
thyroid panel (tsh, t4,t3)
dhea

Then we have data to go off of.

Do you suffer from acid reflux and take PPI's?

That response was for Oupa.

My last Hba1c was in the normal ranges. It’s my Haemoglobin (Hb) that was 11.1. The belief is that I have anaemia of chronic disease without iron deficiency. I eat red meat twice a week at most. I’m mainly on a Mediterranean diet. I do have a progesterone and oestradiol but I took them on not so ideal days so they are difficult to interpret. My Thyroid panel was normal. It included TSH and T4 only.

I’ll probably get my bloods tested on days 19-21 of my menstrual cycle and then days 2-5 for remaining bloods.

When I had my stomach infection (H.pylori), I was on eradication therapy for a month and PPIs for 2 months. I sometimes get the occasional reflux and take a PPI when that happens.

Well now that you are on a contraceptive you can get blood work done when ever.

I want you to do the baking soda test.

1/4 teaspoon of baking soda in 250ml water, and time how long it takes you to burp.

Has your doctor tested homocystine levels, folate and b12 to see if there are any deficiencies there?

You blood panel is growing here.

And ps always go for blood work 21 days after day of first bleed or 7 days prior to menstrual cycle start(7 day is more accurate) but you wont need to worry about that now as you are on oral bc.

@ CR7M10 This is how i jumped to the conclusion

Quoting your post
..."Recently moved back with my parents. Finding it difficult to adjust. Went from living by myself in a peaceful and silent apartment to living in a noisy and cluttered home" Unemployed"

Add steroids to this mindset and situation, and you will create a family shit storm. - I have seen this happen with people before you were born. All the best with your choices.

Well said!

Wait so you saying that I am taking steroids because I am not adjusting to home life? Out of all the things to help me adjust, I choose steroids? I could see a psychologist (who I actually see), but I choose steroids to help me adjust. The logic ain’t logicing bruv. I moved provinces, of course I am gonna struggle to adjust. From all the answers in the questionnaire, bruv decided to focus on that response. Na, that’s crazy. I was just considering a cycle in general unrelated to all that is happening in my home life. I have been considering one for a while, but was too scared. I am not looking for a quick fix. Empire asked about my stress and I added detail, but you decided to make up your own illogical conclusions. Also, I’m unemployed because I decided to take a break and chill. If steroids is a quick fix for unemployment, then I am gonna take a lot of it. Hopefully taking 300mg Tren will give me a job with a monthly salary of R100,000 after tax. Bruv could have just offered friendly advice without being a moron. I’ll consider your advice. All the best with your smooth brain you pussyclat.

Sam your reply serves no purpose to the convo. I am taking Oupa’s advice. I’m just calling him out on him making smooth-brained assumptions instead of just saying “hey since your stress levels are high perhaps you shouldn’t take roids as things could escalate at home.” But bruv was trying to make connections where there aren’t connections and comes across as condescending.

@ CR7M10

Your a female and spell pussyclat wrong, its pussyclaat. Locking this topic as clearly this female is flying on a different channel.

Unlocking thread. Let CR7M10 and Empire continue their discussion if they want to.

Thanks admin.

I think there is so much people may benefit from the content of those thread even with the "lovers quarrels" going on with oupa, sam and CR7M10.

Im hoping shes done the baking soda test and potentially the blood work so I can assist her.

@Oupa (fragile male)

It was clearly a typo. You’re a grown man and can’t spell “you’re”. Blud closed the thread because he has no argument and knew he was pulling theories out of his ass. Be a man blud. You’re being sensitive. Maybe lower the dose of them steroids you taking.

@Empire

I'm not hopping on cycle. I want to sort out everything such as adjusting to my environment, this PCOS, this gastritis and this anaemia. Sorry you had to read through these replies. I’m just pissed at Oupa for coming across as condescending, misogynistic and thinking he knows what is going on in my life and in my head. Thank you for your help and insight. I appreciate it.