When, what, where and precaution

Last night at the gym we had this odd topic and discussion about gear use, when guys inject, what they do during or after injection etc.

This isn't such a relevant topic but I were just amazed how guys think and do things differently. the Topic we discussed were

When do they like to inject - Training days or off days
Inject before training or directly after training
Inject the muscle they train that day or one they train in a few days
Do they warm the gear before or inject cold out the vial
Do they massage the site after injection or not
Straight track or Z track
Do they Mix different compounds in 1 syringe or not
Even the needle size and length, some use so thin, I guess it takes them like 5min to get 1m through it.

It was those topics and it's actually weird how 90% of the guys had different views of how they do it and what works for them. Any of you ever had this discussion that made you wonder how and why some do it.

For me, Off days on Like any Enanthate if IM, I Z track and light massage if it's high volume, I prefer not to do training for a few days on that muscle group, I warm my gear to body temp, needle I go as big as 21/22 gauge and the smallest is 25gauge for IM, 25mm to 38mm long, depending on the oil thickness and muscle group, HGC and that is 30gauge plus. 

I've never tried to inject in the muscle I've just trained, I think itll be sore as hell if it's like pumped, the other guys says it's better for them, more blood flow at that time. Some say you shouldnt massage as you might push it subq and get irretation from it.

Like I said, it's a real off topic topic but quite interesting to hear each ones ideas.

 

There is alot of bro science in that posts. Stability and optimal blood plasma levels is what you are looking to grow quality muscle. Your esters and half life of the chemicals used is critical to understand and how and when to use it.

The post almost reads like you would like to know what is the optimal way to use steroids.

For example -
I use 24 gauge needles and warming my oil before i inject. i also cocktail my compounds into one syringe. I dont massage the pin site, as its not needed using warm oil and injecting slowly. I dont inject in trained muscles at all, and plan my pinning sites around the muscles i will be training. I always inject around 3 to 5 hours before i go to bed, wheather its once or twice or EOD injections.

Just an idea..

Broscience mostly like Oupa said.

I only inject glutes and delts for oils. 90% Mainly glutes, unless I am doing longer esters or a lot of oil. Injection time is based on what's optimal for keeping stable androgen levels in the blood. Nothing else.

Timing injections around workouts makes no difference except for suspension and some peptides.

I use 24G 1 inch needles for oils, except when I do subq TRT dose I use 29G insulin syringes.

It's was a very odd to hear how each guy thinks his way was the best and maybe there's method behind some of the madness but for me some of it doesnt make sense but if it works for them in the end it doesnt matter, like Oupa said, it's all in the blood tests,

Just to add, my offdays aer thursdays and sundays and 80% of the time I use a long ester, it works well for me, some guys like the kick they feel on the shorter ones but for that I would just use some orals, maybe not the best but how I prefer it.

I just like to stand and listen sometimes to what they say, me being into racing and stuff you sometimes just stand and listen to "racers" try to explain how they spec-ed the turbo for their car, some talk sense and some are like 1000miles off, just though it would be a cool odd topic to discuss and if you had people come with such odd way of doing it.