Fake Boldenone or Minor Effect on Testosterone levels.

Hi All

My stats:
26 years old.
179cm
85kg
About 14% bf.

Some info about my current cycle:
EQ @ 600mg/week - 18 weeks
Aromasin @ 5mg EOD --- Currently on week 8 of this cycle.
Letro on hand for if sides get crazy (never really need to use it).

I prefer to run EQ without test, I usually respond quite well without needing to add.

I recently did mid cycle bloodwork and everything came back good, liver enzymes and cholesterol + haemoglobin all in good ranges. Checked CRP too which was good.
However my testosterone wasnt as suppressed as I wouldve expected.

Free Test: 639 pmol/L
Testosterone Total: 24.7 nmol/L

My snapshot before going on cycle was:

Free Test: 528 pmol/L
Testosterone Total: 26.3 nmol/L

I was fasted for both tests, and all other conditions were as close to normal as I could get them.

Since this is only my second EQ cycle, and I didnt manage to get bloods done on the previous one, I just wanted to ask anyone who might have more experience. I would assume running 600mg of EQ
with 0 Test would return a slightly more suppressed Test level? Is it Possible that the EQ is faked/under dosed? or was it too early to show any significant test suppression.

Obviously its only week 8, so I would expect the EQ is peaking now, considering I had no front-loading phase, but I have definitely seen some strength progression and minor weight gain, about 1kg of decent mass.
Not sure if this is placebo, or the mass just isnt as good quality as I would think.

PS: Not sure as to the forum rules, but if someone wants to know the lab, just let me know and ill reply.
Subsequently, please advise if there are any other tests i can do for Boldenone levels in the blood.

Thx in advance!

 

Or if you looked at the characteristics of boldenone and realize that is a testosterone derivative and acts like Testosterone in the body and actually converts to estrogen at less than 50% of Testosterone. How ever if you were to use boldenone for HRT you would need to use double the amount to have the same Effects. So 200mg of Testosterone would mean you would need 400mg of boldenone. So your 600mg dosing of boldenone acts as pretty much 300mg of Testosterone and won't cause suppression and appear as 0 on Testosterone test.

So you would not need to take an aromataze inhibitor with that being the case. And if your libido Has gone to shit it's cos of the aromasin.

Remember estrogen is vital for joint and tendon health, fat loss, libido. So killing it with using aromasin on a cycle with a compound that only converts to estrogen at a 50% rate of Testosterone is going to kill your joints, cholesterol, fat loss, recovery, muscle gains and mood and libido. 

Empire wrote:

Or if you looked at the characteristics of boldenone and realize that is a testosterone derivative and acts like Testosterone in the body and actually converts to estrogen at less than 50% of Testosterone. How ever if you were to use boldenone for HRT you would need to use double the amount to have the same Effects. So 200mg of Testosterone would mean you would need 400mg of boldenone. So your 600mg dosing of boldenone acts as pretty much 300mg of Testosterone and won't cause suppression and appear as 0 on Testosterone test.

So you would not need to take an aromataze inhibitor with that being the case. And if your libido Has gone to shit it's cos of the aromasin.

Remember estrogen is vital for joint and tendon health, fat loss, libido. So killing it with using aromasin on a cycle with a compound that only converts to estrogen at a 50% rate of Testosterone is going to kill your joints, cholesterol, fat loss, recovery, muscle gains and mood and libido. 

One of the issues here with EQ is that although it aromatises at 50% the rate of testosterone, it does not convert to Estradiol which is our primary naturally produced Estrogen. It aromatises to an entirely different synthetic form of Estrogen and I think also Estrone.

As we know Estradiol plays an important in our lidibo but on an EQ only cycle. Replacing it with a different synthetic Estrogen would not have the same effect. So although we would have 50% of the androgenic effect and 50% the aromatisation of the equivalent dose of testosterone, Estradiol levels would be way lower than ideal. Probably very low.

So Aromasin is definitely aggravating the libido issue here but even without it he would be at increased risk of losing his sex drive. Basically, as we always say Test should be the base of any injectable cycle.

I never remember if converts to e1 or e3 but I do know it's not e2. Thanks for clearing that one up MA!

Funny enough boldenone can have an AI effect in some people, incredibly minimal in most, but higher than others. So you will not need an ai on this cycle and would be suggestive to add in at least 1mg of Testosterone per kg and reduce boldnenone dosing by that amount.

I saw both you and MuscleAddict post about Libido, just to clarify, my libido is through the roof, no ED problems, find myself needing the GF at least once a day.

But thanks for the feedback, ill drop the Aromasin, and add test for something that aromatizes into a more natural less synthetic estrogen.

Thanks for the headsup, will add test for sure, at just over 1mg per kg (ill probably round it to 100mg for ease of measurement) and subsequently lower the EQ by 100mg as suggested.

Really appreciate the input!

All the estrogen being synthesized is real estrogen, how ever you get 3 different types of estrogen in the body, e1,e2,e3. They all have different roles.