Clen yohimbe and binge eating disorder

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14 Jun 2022 23:20 #227763 by MrsRaisinHead
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I checked in at 9,7% body today I am going on holiday in December and want to get to 6% for the 1st time. I'm buying liquid pharmaceutical clen at the end of the month and yohimbe... I suffer from binge eating disorder does anyone have a drug recommendedation for this, the binges happen at night... My calories have been counted strictly I just keep binge eating every few days and have hit an equilibrium body fat. I use to be 14,4% around the last time I checked in with you guys. Also I'm currently natural and haven't taken anabolics since August 2021

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15 Jun 2022 05:45 #227764 by Empire
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to be honest, dude, if you are suffering from any form of eating disorder, cutting wouldn't be a good idea at all. rather build up your maintenance calories and muscle mass over a couple of weeks and months and have enough calories to fill the gap in the evening so you don't binge.

you are just going to be spinning your wheels cos I know that some people's binges can get over 6000 kcal at a time. so you are going to be using drugs to offset that and it's going to be a waste of your time.

seek professional help too, as well as read a book called never binge again. it makes you set up food rules and understand where the binges come from etc.
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19 Jun 2022 11:59 #227808 by Obelix
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My recommendation,

Dont have temptations in the house. Get rid of the bad stuff,

keep lower/empty calories in the cupboards, rather binge on a bowl of popcorn than a slab of choc.
Coming from a 1kg bag of sweets a day, trust me, your cravings and binges arent strong enough for you to go grab stuff at the local engen when its past 8pm

what are you binging on? Junk? Second helpings of supper?
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19 Jun 2022 12:19 #227809 by MrsRaisinHead
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Yea I live with other people in a digs so can get hard but it's good advice thank you ????

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19 Jun 2022 12:27 #227810 by MrsRaisinHead
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My Dr phsyciatrist prescribed 50mg of Toplep a day, one in morning and one in night for the binge eating

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20 Jun 2022 04:52 #227811 by Empire
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I want to dig deeper, what other drugs are you taking for mental health? If there is anything for anxiety then clen and yohimbine is going to be a bad idea.
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20 Jun 2022 08:58 #227817 by MrsRaisinHead
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I'm on dopaquill it's anxiety meds 40mg, ok what about T3? I know clen elevates heart rate crazy but t3 doesn't....

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20 Jun 2022 09:03 #227819 by admin
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MrsRaisinHead wrote: I'm on dopaquill it's anxiety meds 40mg, ok what about T3? I know clen elevates heart rate crazy but t3 doesn't....


T3 can elevate heart rate and it most certainly does cause anxiety.

Clen, Yohimbine, T3, ECA or any other stimulant is a no-go if you are taking meds for anxiety disorders.
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20 Jun 2022 09:08 #227820 by Empire
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really? where did you hear that? t3 raises heart rate too. I have clients that use t3 whose heart rate is up 20% and are wired and full of anxiety.

bud you really are playing with fire here. honestly, I would suggest PULLING ALL STIMULANTS: pre-workout, coffee, coke zero, clen, yohimbine, t3. work on building up your muscle mass, and metabolism with food and try and fix the binge eating issues.

you are basically using drugs to offset the caloric difference you are binging, also it seems like you don't have a great relationship with food and this is just a recipe for disaster and eating disorders. IF you were no so hungry all the time from eating at maintenance, you most likely wouldn't binge.

your anxiety disorder (and this is not meant in any harsh way as when I went through my divorce I had the same issues) needs to be addressed. get your head right in a manner you feel comfortable, and realize I'm not giving you shitty advice. As Obelix says, you can't eat it if you don't buy it. if you pre-plan your meals, and adequate calories and have the rule to stay out of the kitchen or where temptation is after your meal, and you stick to the rule, you will be on a good way to recovery. You are setting yourself up for yo-yo dieting and putting on more weight than you loose if you carry on down this path.
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20 Jun 2022 09:17 #227822 by MrsRaisinHead
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20% is a lot ????. Yea I'm also on moodstabilisers (epilim) that cause me to binge eat. I have bipolar like these meds are known to cause binge eating I never had problems with weight before I started taking them so I'm not really sure what to do but I float around 10%-12% body fat as a natural it's just frustrating to not have any control over your calorie intake so I'm really looking for a drug that can counter these meds

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20 Jun 2022 09:26 - 20 Jun 2022 09:37 #227824 by Empire
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sorry to tell you this, epilium is not causing you to binge eat. I went to a psychiatrist and he put me on 2000mg a day, I couldn't even get in 800kcal a day, however that shit fucks with your glucose metabolism and insulin sensitivity that even on 800kcal a day.

"it's just frustrating to not have any control over your calorie intake" uhhhhh dude, sorry to tell you this, but you do have control over your calorie intake. You are the only one putting the fork in your mouth. NO one else. You my friend are looking for an excuse to blame drugs for your mental state and binge eating which is not happening. IT IS YOU, YOUR CHOICE, AND YOUR CONTROL.

if you have bipolar, you really need to stay away from stimulants, and to be honest, I'm checking out of this thread, cos I've dealt with many people with this mood disorder, and no matter what you tell them, they always come to their own conclusion and don't listen to the advice.

I wish you all the best on your way to recovery bud, but you are looking for excuses and justifications to use the drugs you are wanting to use.
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20 Jun 2022 09:30 #227825 by MrsRaisinHead
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Hahaha well said thanks I'll try the natural for now and follow oblex method

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21 Jun 2022 08:14 #227829 by Obelix
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I have a method named after me!

I am an example, and for once, its a good one




Seriously though, Im self diagnosed Bi polar etc... read up way too much and eventually just decided that im normal.
BUT i do stress eat, busy at work, stress eat, wife shouting at the kids, i eat.... Difference is now I eat low calorie stuff and skip the sweets and junk as much as possible. We all cope with food, it makes us feel safe and feel good. If your body has fuel, you will survive anything. Its primal. its normal


Good luck, and keep posting updates, check in and let us know how it works, Sadly living with others will make it trickier, but you gotta have some self control :(

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30 Jun 2022 10:07 #227878 by Empire
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So I came across something the other day, and I thought this might be of help, first off read the book never binge again, it's free for download and the author has quite a few videos on YouTube which I found really really interesting..

2nd off, eat all your meals with chopsticks. Even all your binge food. What this does is slows down the time between shoveling food into your mouth and how long it takes to hit the stomach, cos try as you might, eating a muffin that you've broken down into small pieces with chopsticks is going to take forever.
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06 Jul 2022 16:36 #227896 by Obelix
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So @mrsraisinhead

Hows it going?

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06 Jul 2022 16:58 #227898 by MrsRaisinHead
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Yea man I keep yoyo dieting, like 4 days maintenance then I binge for a night but hectic probably 4000 calories. I've started reading the binge book empire suggested but Yea it's very much a mental battle it seems. The binging correlates to stress it seems

Thanks for checking in but no progress yet I'm still grafting at it

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06 Jul 2022 17:13 #227899 by MrsRaisinHead
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That book is going good though

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09 Jul 2022 14:55 #227918 by Obelix
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its scary how much your mind can hold you back,

i still struggle with it,

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10 Nov 2022 21:29 #228634 by MrsRaisinHead
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I solved the binge eating and I could control my body weight for about 3 months straight... except I stopped smoking 5 weeks ago and now I wake up every night and then binge eat again... does anyone know of a drug or supplement that will stop this? I've put on like 5kg so far. Preferably something that will keep me asleep for 8 hours because I can control the binging during the day, it's just when I wake up I have 0 will power.
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11 Nov 2022 18:00 #228635 by Empire
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You can take yourself off to the psychologist and fix the cause instead of masking it with drugs.
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12 Nov 2022 11:04 #228637 by Obelix
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agree with Empire here, Fix the root of the problem,

You also need natural sleep, not something that will knock you out.


What are you binging on?

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