Testosterone Enanthate 300

If I may ask the experts here.

I have a vile of testosterone enanthate 300.

If I wanted to take a cycle of 300mg a week then I would theoretically take 1ml which would be 300mg.

What is confusing is various articles say that anywhere between 64% to 72% of that 1ml is actually the testosterone and the other percentage is the ester and oils. I cannot find a definetive ratio for this anywhere.

So in essence (on best case scenario of 72%) there would only be 216mg of testosterone in every 1 ml.
If I were to then want 300mg I would actually need to then inject 1.4 ml.

Is the above correct or am I way off course here...

That will vary with the brand and actual quality of the product. If it’s legit 300mg and not under dosed. Yes will have to draw out more to get 300mg.
There’s also wastage from drawing out the oil and in the needle.

Do not worry about Ester weight and all of that, it's over complicating the process. I never take that into consideration. Dose your test at 3mg per kg and get the results..

If this is the case then how would you determine what amount to inject then to get to the required amount.
Is there a "rule of thumb" where you you would use say 70% as the default for test amount.
300*70% = 210mg

There is hundreds of recommended steroid cycles out there.
Each one says eg.300mg per week of TestE.
But how many people don't know that they are coming up way short by using the brand label versus the actual amount.

TestE 300 is actually then TestE 210 (or based on whatever the actual percentage is per brand).

I have looked at 3 different manufactorers spec sheets of their TestE 300 and cannot find that volume, or percentage breakdown.

The neddle leakage I can accept but the discrepancy on the percentage is vast.

Just inject "3mg x bodyweight" and get done with it. Stop over complicating things that make no difference.

Okay ... Just to clear this one up...

3mg X body weight

TestE 300mg.
Body weight 100kg.

3 X 100kg = 300mg per week which is 1ml.

If you factor in 30% for ester & oil

A. 3*100 kg = 300mg - 90 = 210mg per 1ml TestE

B. 3*100 kg = 300mg @70% = 1.4ml for 294mg

So questions is which dosage would you take
Option A or B for the 3mg times your body weight

DP2011 wrote: I have looked at 3 different manufactorers spec sheets of their TestE 300 and cannot find that volume, or percentage breakdown.

It doesn't matter from a usage standpoint, that's why you don't see it specified anywhere. When a manufacturer dose their product at 250mg/ml that includes the ester weight. When we say inject 250mg we include the ester weight. For you to try and subtract the ester weight is a pointless exercise.

You don't need a spec sheet, it's basic high school chemistry. I state again, it does not matter, but here is how it is done using the periodic table:




Testosterone: C19H28O2
Testosterone Enanthate: C26H40O3

You use the periodic table to find the molecular weight for each element in your molecule, then multiply this with the number of molecules and you add that together to get the molecular weight.

Testosterone:
= C19H28O2
= (19 * 12.011) + (28 * 1.008) + (2 * 15.999)
= 228.209 + 28.224 + 31.998
= 288.431g/mol

Testosterone Enanthate:
= C26H40O3
= (26 * 12.011) + (40 * 1.008) + (3 * 15.999)
= 312.286 + 42.008 + 47.997
= 402.291g/mol

Determine the weight difference as a percentage and there is your answer:
(288.431 / 402.291) * 100 = 71.7%

In other words 71.7% of Testosterone enanthate is hormone the other 28.3% is ester. BUT AGAIN, this does not matter in the real world.

You are over complicating it, forget about Ester weight all of that shit.

admin wrote:

DP2011 wrote: I have looked at 3 different manufactorers spec sheets of their TestE 300 and cannot find that volume, or percentage breakdown.

It doesn't matter from a usage standpoint, that's why you don't see it specified anywhere. When a manufacturer dose their product at 250mg/ml that includes the ester weight. when we say inject 250mg we include the ester weight. For you to try and subtract the ester weight is a pointless exercise.

You don't need a spec sheet, it's basic high school chemistry. I state again, it does not matter, but here is how it is done using the periodic table:

Testosterone: C19H28O2
Testosterone Enanthate: C26H40O3

You use the periodic table to find the molecular weight for each element in your molecule, then multiply this with the number of molecules and you add that together to get the molecular weight.

Testosterone:
= C19H28O2
= (19 * 12.011) + (28 * 1.008) + (2 * 15.999)
= 228.209 + 28.224 + 31.998
= 288.431g/mol

Testosterone Enanthate:
= C26H40O3
= (26 * 12.011) + (40 * 1.008) + (3 * 15.999)
= 312.286 + 42.008 + 47.997
= 402.291g/mol

Determine the weight difference as a percentage and there is your answer:
(288.431 / 402.291) * 100 = 71.7%

In other words 71.7% of Testosterone enanthate is hormone the other 28.3% is ester. BUT AGAIN, this does not matter in the real word.

Amen.

Thanks guys I shall jump back in my box.
Appreciate all the input.

Esterification at the 17β-hydroxyl group increases the solubility of testosterone in oil and thereby slows its release into the circulation, prolonging its duration of action.

DP2011 wrote: Thanks guys I shall jump back in my box.
Appreciate all the input.

Its best you do that

Oupa wrote:

DP2011 wrote: Thanks guys I shall jump back in my box.
Appreciate all the input.

Its best you do that

Done back in box

if this matters so much then you are better off using test suspension. but ouch. and ya, counting esther weight is pointless

I did 325 mg/wk with anavar for the last 7 weeks. Wish I would have just done 500 mg/wk. IMO it makes a pretty big difference in what people report. 300 mg is only a bit over trt, so yes you will get gains, but it won’t be as profound.

starless wrote: I did 325 mg/wk with anavar for the last 7 weeks. Wish I would have just done 500 mg/wk. IMO it makes a pretty big difference in what people report. 300 mg is only a bit over trt, so yes you will get gains, but it won’t be as profound.

and when you go over 3mg per kg the side effects keep growing too, no one is saying don't use more than 3mg per kg of total anabolics, 3mg of testosterone is a safe space to play where you have no estrogenic side effects (usually) no massive water retention, gyno issues, blood pressure issues, phlebotic issues.

MEDICAL TRT is 1mg per kg on average so 3mg per kg is actually 3x trt. The magic comes in is actually learning that combining steroids from different families such as a test base, with a DHT and 19nor will produce 1+1+1=5

so lets go with this route, you do 5mg per kg of testosterone, you have estrogen issues, so you take an AI which has its own hosts of side effects and costs money. OR you take less testosterone, add in a DHT compound such as 200mg of primo or masteron with your 3mg per kg of testosterone and you have a better cycle as masteron and primo do not give you the side effects than the additional 2mg per kg of testosterone and it gives you other benefits.

so choice is yours, but that's just me.

jooceboi456 wrote: if this matters so much then you are better off using test suspension. but ouch. and ya, counting esther weight is pointless

why would you want to put yourself through that pain daily?

Lol I wouldn't do that to myself, just putting things in perspective so op can see how ridiculous this topic is