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Does anyone have experience running a low dose of Masteron. I'm currently doing 200mg Test Cyp and 350mg EQ every 5 days and 3iu of hGH a day, I'm up from my surgery in January which I had to drop to 102kgs, then recovery and back in training and up to 112.5 at 10.9 percent bodyfat.
I will continue running the EQ for another 6 or so weeks, but wanted to start running Masteron at 200mg every 5 days for 30 weeks or so. I want to use it for hardness and some aggression, I don't want to run anything at high doses anymore I have no problem putting on muscle from hard training and food.
I'm just trying to engage if anyone has any experience running a low dose for a long period of time, or if that dose may be a bit under and need to bump it to 300mg or so. I do not want to put on much more muscle and stay around this weight. Reality is I will probably move closer to 117 / 120 by the end of winter but that is going to start to effect my health, so I'll prefer to try stay harder and just enjoy the training for the next couple months.
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Wayne wrote: Wow...after all your issues, you still amaze man! You are usually the go-to guy for wealth of knowledge and info...you know, few years back, you promised to share/write articles about a whole lot of stuff you had learnt...hope you still get around to doing it. Would very much like to know how you went about sorting your kidneys out and even regenerated them..you still my hero here..good luck with your cycle and keep healthy.
I know exactly what you mean... i'm a bit of a pump groupie myself hahaha.
Looking forward to that wealth of knowledge from pump. and good luck with the plans pump
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Wayne wrote: Wow...after all your issues, you still amaze man! You are usually the go-to guy for wealth of knowledge and info...you know, few years back, you promised to share/write articles about a whole lot of stuff you had learnt...hope you still get around to doing it. Would very much like to know how you went about sorting your kidneys out and even regenerated them..you still my hero here..good luck with your cycle and keep healthy.
Thanks buddy, I will make sure I write some stuff. My kidneys went from stage 3 to 100 percent functional. I went from 7 different BP meds around 30 pills a day to 1 that I will look at stopping within the next month or two. I went for a 4 and a half hour clinical trial procedure in January for people with drug resistant hypertension and it was successful.
I personally have not run Masteron in such a way that is why I'm hoping someone else would have experience otherwise I will just go ahead with it and be able to provide feedback to how it's working.
Biggest thing is take your health seriously and deal with the best of the best. I would never thought after 3 heart surgeries and this latest 'don't want to mention the name of the procedure or people could put 1 and 1 and link it to me' but I'm now as healthy as I was in my early 20s
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I am however very interested in how you are experiencing your low dose Test and EQ cycle.
How long have you been running this and how long would you suggest running this.
Please share your positives/negatives.
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jvr wrote: Unfortunately can't share any experience or advice about your masteron question.
I am however very interested in how you are experiencing your low dose Test and EQ cycle.
How long have you been running this and how long would you suggest running this.
Please share your positives/negatives.
I love it, I won't run big cycles again, that time has come and gone. The EQ took it's fair time to kick in, I would say 8 weeks or so. I had extremely low testosterone levels, I can't remember the number out my head but around 150 free test. So the benefits of testosterone for me is gigantic, I believe on this stack I could easily get my size up to 130kgs, I won't be able to push 150kgs like 15 years ago but I still believe I can get fairly large on it (not that I will, I have dropped my calories now due to starting to get to heavy (don't want my blood pressure going up)). Less is more, the anabolics give me an edge and the rest is living a life without external toxins going in me, good sleep hygiene, foods and hardcore training (my lifts are going up weekly).
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00pump wrote: I would never thought after 3 heart surgeries and this latest 'don't want to mention the name of the procedure or people could put 1 and 1 and link it to me' but I'm now as healthy as I was in my early 20s
That is some scary stuff man. Reading a full biography would have been great but obviously not possible.
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Amazed that after all these set backs you’re still committed.
Doubt if I would have been able to “keep on keepin on”
At 37 years my test was at 112 and best I could get it to was 143.
Got depressed, demotivated and obviously had no strength or energy.
Running test cyp at 125mg pw at the moment but looking to upping the test and adding a little something in couple of months time.
how long would you say would be fairly safe to run these two compounds together for?
(obviously at the relatively low doses you’re currently stacking them at)
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Oupa wrote: Pumpster... I ran Masteron 8 months @ 225mg pw, what questions do you have buddy?
Hey Oupa, I purely want to know if you found that it was beneficial as everything I find is 'badly written bro science' that advise 400mg+. I'm really just wanting to use it to help stay anabolic, help a bit with intensity (aggression) in the gym and to help give a bit more with muscle density over the next couple months with side effects being low.
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I use it purely for the dry and vascular look with no bad side effects (already got a shaven head). If I took it for anything else I'd be disappointed considering what it costs.
Keen to hear what Oupa has to say, but knowing him he was drinking bottles of tren with it. :lol:
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What i found was
1. You can maintain good strength when you drop orals.
2. Endurance kick in quickly when you need to add the cardio later on. Even throughout no cardio weeks, the endurance was there in strength workouts.
3. It works like a trip switch to strip your moer ! Adds to a good controllable aggression.
4. Libido is higher, your sexual mind playes games, all depends what u do with it.
5. Prostate felt better than ever.
6. Hair loss for me was none.
7. Blood Pressure very slightly raised but its a shot in the dark as being pissed off raises it much more.
8. No estrogen issues.
9. Definitely helps with staying lean and vascular
10. Skin / scalp does dry out so take care of that
I really enjoyed to cycle it, only reason i stopped is to take a good break from it.
You welcome to ask anything
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As for the question on masteron i compared running 200mg a week of masteron for a month and 50mg proviron the next month and found the proviron to work way better
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Oupa wrote: Hey buds
What i found was
1. You can maintain good strength when you drop orals.
2. Endurance kick in quickly when you need to add the cardio later on. Even throughout no cardio weeks, the endurance was there in strength workouts.
3. It works like a trip switch to strip your moer ! Adds to a good controllable aggression.
4. Libido is higher, your sexual mind playes games, all depends what u do with it.
5. Prostate felt better than ever.
6. Hair loss for me was none.
7. Blood Pressure very slightly raised but its a shot in the dark as being pissed off raises it much more.
8. No estrogen issues.
9. Definitely helps with staying lean and vascular
10. Skin / scalp does dry out so take care of that
I really enjoyed to cycle it, only reason i stopped is to take a good break from it.
You welcome to ask anything
It sounds to me like it's certainly worth the journey. I think I will see nice results as I'm very consistent at the moment with everything, so let me finish this EQ and then start with it so I can engage exactly how it works for me. I've run this EQ for quite some time now too, so I'll run it a couple more weeks, but I think it's time to go for a blood donation, and then I'll start with the Masteron in 6 weeks or so and run it till spring and then move to Anavar, then i've given my body close on a year free of orals, by the GW50156 that I've been using for a few months.
I'm sure the discontinuation of the EQ and addition of Masteron should be fairly parred with regards to blood pressure so I'm not to worried about that as long as I keep my cardio up.
Hair, I'm pretty blessed to have hair but I don't mind if it goes either.
My prostate has been good to me lately and I've been making it through most nights without needing to go for a pee
Libido is always nice to have a top-up but I certainly don't have an issue with that at the moment.
I'm also not looking for constant on aggression that causes to many problems in my life, just the ability to turn my music on and get an extra bit of drive when I'm in the gym.
I'm also eager not to lose to much strength when stopped the EQ so even if the Masteron can just help 'slightly' I will be happy as I'm gaining strength most weeks at the moment and pretty much injury free.
With winter coming I will make sure I stay creamed up

Hmm, I didn't find I got vascular at all on this round of EQ which upset me, but it's possible (i'm guessing, the diuretic is preventing it from doing it's job properly, I'm not sure).
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Mr Z wrote: Hey pump was your low test condition due to abusing anabolics? And are you running test cyp 200mg from pfizer or underground?
As for the question on masteron i compared running 200mg a week of masteron for a month and 50mg proviron the next month and found the proviron to work way better
I don't know for certain but I would guess so, maybe it was from picking up weight or maybe it was from living an unhealthy life for certain period of it and bad food, insulin resistance. It could have been a whole range of things or a combination of things.
I was using Pfizer then ran HD for awhile I have as of 2 shots ago gone back to Pfizer, I will prefer to keep my Testosterone dosage exactly at what my Endo wants until I completely comfortable with the dosing and then I will decide if I want to increase it. I personally would prefer not to use underground Test as that is the basis of a cycle, and then use underground for other things like Masteron.
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Insomnia is a bit worse the last few weeks, but not major. Calories are aimed at maintenance but looking a lot leaner now. Weight is the same. Pretty much what I wanted. BP is borderline fine but slightly higher than when I added the masteron.
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00pump wrote: Everytime I read this thread I set a mental reminder to donate blood and I keep forgetting
How often do you donate?
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Apoc21 wrote:
00pump wrote: Everytime I read this thread I set a mental reminder to donate blood and I keep forgetting
How often do you donate?
Every 3 months because my ferritin was high, but I will go every 6 months after this next donation as I don't want it to drop to low. This is purely because my hemoglobin is in a good enough range to do it every 6 months, if I find it's increasing I will then work out a better donation period, maybe every 5 or 4. At this point in time me and my endo are still working out what is best for my body. But i'm very in tune with my body and can feel it and see that it's time. The last thing I would ever want to do is go back on blood thinners.
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00pump wrote:
Apoc21 wrote:
00pump wrote: Everytime I read this thread I set a mental reminder to donate blood and I keep forgetting
How often do you donate?
Every 3 months because my ferritin was high, but I will go every 6 months after this next donation as I don't want it to drop to low. This is purely because my hemoglobin is in a good enough range to do it every 6 months, if I find it's increasing I will then work out a better donation period, maybe every 5 or 4. At this point in time me and my endo are still working out what is best for my body. But i'm very in tune with my body and can feel it and see that it's time. The last thing I would ever want to do is go back on blood thinners.
Blood thinners....ecotrin(baby aspirin) what's bad about it? I am not using at the moment but was advised to to use every second day or so..wanted to get back onto it...
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Wayne wrote:
00pump wrote:
Apoc21 wrote:
00pump wrote: Everytime I read this thread I set a mental reminder to donate blood and I keep forgetting
How often do you donate?
Every 3 months because my ferritin was high, but I will go every 6 months after this next donation as I don't want it to drop to low. This is purely because my hemoglobin is in a good enough range to do it every 6 months, if I find it's increasing I will then work out a better donation period, maybe every 5 or 4. At this point in time me and my endo are still working out what is best for my body. But i'm very in tune with my body and can feel it and see that it's time. The last thing I would ever want to do is go back on blood thinners.
Blood thinners....ecotrin(baby aspirin) what's bad about it? I am not using at the moment but was advised to to use every second day or so..wanted to get back onto it...
Very good idea.. warfarin and xarelto suck balls. Warfarin you need to do INR bloods every week to make sure your dose is correct which can change weekly and this gets effected by Vitamin K, so bye bye all your healthy foods but the positive is the ER has a way to prevent you from bleeding out if you sustain a bad injury. Xarelto a single dose for everyone and no weekly blood tests the down side is you get hit on your head by a golf ball and you will bleed out, the ER cannot stop the bleeding and their has been enough court cases around the drug. Ecotrin for anyone with a chance of stroke / heart attack is a great idea as it minimizes the risk by over 50 percent and I think that number got closer to 80, but again that is a Drs call..
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Oupa wrote: Whats your tren dose at? My body calls for a "stop" if i run low Tren to long. Takes me 3 weeks to feel good and back to speed again.
Very low. 120mg/week. 0.4ml Tren E 150 Mondays and Thursdays. Enough to see enough benefits to take it, but my blood pressure is normal, and I don't feel like moering anyone most of the time.
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Oupa wrote: Whats your tren dose at? My body calls for a "stop" if i run low Tren to long. Takes me 3 weeks to feel good and back to speed again.
Very low. 120mg/week. 0.4ml Tren E 150 Mondays and Thursdays. Enough to see enough benefits to take it, but my blood pressure is normal, and I don't feel like moering anyone most of the time.
Its not like i want to moer anyone, but my body just seems to go for all the sides listed after a long time on Tren. Its really horrible to recover from that.
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