NPP, cypionate and dbol advice

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01 Nov 2018 13:01 #218059 by RegT
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Its been years since Ive done deca and a depotrone cycle. I want to get your input on this.
Whats your opinion on this cycle? Good combination?
Injection schedule as follow:
NPP every 3rd day @ 100mg
Cypionate every 6 days @ 200mg
Dbols @ 30mg p/day for the 1st 3 weeks
Duration: 8 weeks should i perhaps stretch this to a 10 week?
PCT: Clomid and HCG to start 36 days after last injection of the longest ester(cypionate)
AI: Will get Letro for the puffy nipple effects. And help against water retention.

Diet:
My days often starts at 3:am.
150ml raw oats, adding scoop whey

100gr either ox liver or pilchards (great oil content) high in energy with rice. And its cheap

200gr mince with samp/potatoe/pasta.
100gr brocoli

150gr steak with sweet potatoe. Or 150gr gammon.

1 chicken breast with pasta/rice/samp
along with 250gr mixed veg.

On some days Ill have an avo, fruit salad, good morning biscuits or homemade oats cookies as a snack.

Shake: nutritech mass builder twice a day. Morning and directly after gym.

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01 Nov 2018 14:34 #218062 by Oupa
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01 Nov 2018 14:55 #218065 by RegT
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37yrs
94kg
24% bodyfat(yup, very high. Worst condition Ive been in). Planning to get back onto my mountain bike too. So that should help getting the bf down.

Been training for 10 years on and off.

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01 Nov 2018 16:42 #218069 by Hoosain
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The main issue is the bodyfat. Highly and strongly recommend dropping down to around 15% at least before tackling the cycle. High bodyfat is just asking for sides to happen and with npp in the mix i doubt you want to go down that route.

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02 Nov 2018 03:45 #218075 by RegT
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Hoosain wrote: The main issue is the bodyfat. Highly and strongly recommend dropping down to around 15% at least before tackling the cycle. High bodyfat is just asking for sides to happen and with npp in the mix i doubt you want to go down that route.


Is your recommendation based on that a high bodyfat percentage turns testosterone into estrogen? NPP has a greater possibility of estrogen related sides. So it will all just add up and give me boobs? And high blood pressure? More strain on kidneys and liver?

Then Ill make the required changes to my diet and do HIIT.
Add a clen/yohimbe combo to assist with bringing down the bf :-)
Any ideas on dosages for that(Helios)? I prefer not to take any supplements with Ephedrine or similar.

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02 Nov 2018 07:09 - 02 Nov 2018 07:11 #218076 by PraetorXII
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I would not recommend any drugs at your stage, your can easy drop weight (BF%) by adjusting your diet correctly and by doing HIIT day in day out, it didnt take you 2 months to gain that weight, correct? There is no shortcuts in getting in shape. Taking mass builder is counter productive if trying to burn BF.

If you keep doing what you've been doing
You gonna keep getting what you've been getting...
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02 Nov 2018 08:22 #218078 by Hoosain
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RegT wrote:

Hoosain wrote: The main issue is the bodyfat. Highly and strongly recommend dropping down to around 15% at least before tackling the cycle. High bodyfat is just asking for sides to happen and with npp in the mix i doubt you want to go down that route.


Is your recommendation based on that a high bodyfat percentage turns testosterone into estrogen? NPP has a greater possibility of estrogen related sides. So it will all just add up and give me boobs? And high blood pressure? More strain on kidneys and liver?

Then Ill make the required changes to my diet and do HIIT.
Add a clen/yohimbe combo to assist with bringing down the bf :-)
Any ideas on dosages for that(Helios)? I prefer not to take any supplements with Ephedrine or similar.


all those sides have an increased chance. With npp you won't just get boobs, you can start lactating as well.

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02 Nov 2018 08:28 #218079 by Hoosain
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PraetorXII wrote: I would not recommend any drugs at your stage, your can easy drop weight (BF%) by adjusting your diet correctly and by doing HIIT day in day out, it didnt take you 2 months to gain that weight, correct? There is no shortcuts in getting in shape. Taking mass builder is counter productive if trying to burn BF.


everything spot on.
I wouldn't be able to touch mass builder anymore or else i pack on more fat than actual muscle. I was personally a big fan of the nutritech mass builder and just 2 mins ago have recommended and given to someone. However at our age and with higher bf i have traded that in for whey and i would suggest you look into doing the same.

Also keep in mind that food is more valuable than supplements. If you can get in some lean protein instead you won't go wrong.

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