Sample Cycle/ Advice

JackedJon
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07 Sep 2018 13:50 #217473 by JackedJon

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Howzit Everyone.
I want to start my first cycle soon but let me just give you some stats.
I’m 24, 183cm, I have 6-10% bf, I currently weigh 78,4 which is very underweight in my opinion, I have been training for about 2-3years. But, the thing is I only really learnt how important dieting was at the beginning of the year, I am a skinny bitch but I do have some muscle.
I’ve researched a lot of sample cycles and for a beginner I found this one
So my cycle idea is as follows:
The brand is Precision Gear Works as I feel it is most reputable in SA
1-4 weeks 30mg Dbol
1-10 weeks Deca
1-10 weeks Test C

Pct-40/40/20/20 nolvadex
Hcg - I need help with the dosages - I have 5000iu but I can buy more according to your gents feedback.
On cycle support:
Arimadex- 0.5 eod 1-10weeks
On Cycle support from Chrome - 1-12 weeks
I will be starting my PCT 2weeks after last deca shot.

Thank you guys for reading any feedback is welcome.

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admin
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07 Sep 2018 14:33 #217475 by admin

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Rather do this cycle: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/sample-cycles/48-cycle-1

Also read the PCT article to answer your other questions: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/9-post-cycle-therapy

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Alejandro13
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07 Sep 2018 15:03 #217476 by Alejandro13

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Are you getting enough calories though? I'm not saying don't go on your cycle, but how's your eating? Are you getting enough sleep? Are you really crushing it at the gym? Even stress plays a role in growth.

Again, I'm not saying don't go on the cycle, all I'm saying is make sure all other aspects are "good" too.

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Hoosain
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07 Sep 2018 15:04 #217477 by Hoosain

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So what does your diet look like after you learnt about it this year.

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JackedJon
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07 Sep 2018 18:44 #217480 by JackedJon

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My diet is quite solid eating 3000 + calories a day
I want to hopefully push this to 3500-4500
Will it be more helpful to eat more ?

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JackedJon
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07 Sep 2018 18:47 #217481 by JackedJon

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My sleep is also good I sleep at 10 wake up at 6 so it’s more than enough, I train with my mate that knows what he’s doing and yea I smash those sessions.

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Rooi Bul 86
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08 Sep 2018 05:18 #217482 by Rooi Bul 86

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Post up your diet please so we can have look

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JackedJon
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08 Sep 2018 22:41 #217484 by JackedJon

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Meal 1 Morning : 3 Whole eggs, 3 egg whites, 40g Maltabella Porridge or 5 weetbix, 1tbsp peanut butter
Meal 2 Mid-Morning: 1 serving ProSupps Mass gainer + 1 Apple
Meal 3 Lunch: 200g Chicken Breast, 30 g Long Stem broccoli, 1cup Brown rice
Meal 4: 200g Mince, 150g Sweet Potato
Meal 5 Pre-Workout: 1 Scoop whey, Maltabella
Meal 6 Post workout: 1 scoop whey, 1 cup Pasta, 200g Steak
Meal 7 before bed: 1 scoop MuscleTech Casiene, 1 Tbsp peanut butter

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Rooi Bul 86
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09 Sep 2018 07:48 #217485 by Rooi Bul 86

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Calories and Macro's according to that?

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JackedJon
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09 Sep 2018 09:59 #217487 by JackedJon

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It’s around 3400 but yet I still want to increase it to around 3700+
What’s the best way to go about this?
It’s about 286g carbs 102g Fat and 269g protein

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Rooi Bul 86
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09 Sep 2018 14:57 - 09 Sep 2018 14:58 #217489 by Rooi Bul 86

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Bud do me and you a favour and put your stats in on www.freedieting.com on their calorie calculator go to advanced options put your body fat % as 11 even though you could be 12 but without pictures or actual measurements it is hard to tell. See what your maintenance calories is.

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JackedJon
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09 Sep 2018 16:56 #217490 by JackedJon

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It says 3061 calories for maintenance.

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Rooi Bul 86
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09 Sep 2018 20:21 #217491 by Rooi Bul 86

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Then take 500 calories higher.
Stick to that for about two weeks if you gain you know we are heading in the right direction. You do not want to gain too fast as that will be more fat than muscle. If you do not gain then up it by another 500 calories.

A buddy of mine had very similar stats than yours and he fkund his sweet spot at 4000 to 5000 calories

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JackedJon
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09 Sep 2018 23:37 #217493 by JackedJon

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Thanks for the help, how’s my cycle looking too? Anyone got tips on hcg - before or after cycle, I was thinking starting pct after 2 weeks since last deca shot ?
Also will the cycle help with appetite?

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10 Sep 2018 05:12 #217494 by admin

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JackedJon wrote: I was thinking starting pct after 2 weeks since last deca shot ?

You obviously have not read the PCT article. Don’t expect to be spoon fed, you have to do some reading on your own as well.

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Hoosain
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10 Sep 2018 08:18 #217495 by Hoosain

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JackedJon wrote: Thanks for the help, how’s my cycle looking too? Anyone got tips on hcg - before or after cycle, I was thinking starting pct after 2 weeks since last deca shot ?
Also will the cycle help with appetite?

don't do a cycle yet pal. at the moment you're heading for shit street.
You're doing the cycle wrong, pct wrong and clearly won't be prepared for anything should problems arise.
The last thing you want is to come here with deca dick because you didn't know to expect it and you don't know how to fix it.

Educate yourself some more before attempting a cycle

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JackedJon
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10 Sep 2018 23:54 #217514 by JackedJon

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admin wrote:
JackedJon wrote: I was thinking starting pct after 2 weeks since last deca shot ?

You obviously have not read the PCT article. Don’t expect to be spoon fed, you have to do some reading on your own as well.

To be honest I never read the PCT feed properly, it makes complete sense, so in essence I must wait 54 Days after last deca shot, will my gains not deteriorate after that long? Obviously my diet and all will be in check it’s just on other forums I read on 15 days but I now know that it is the half-life... I understand and I have been researching for long, just asking cause I want to make sure I haven’t missed anything, but thank you.

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Gmw89
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11 Sep 2018 12:14 #217516 by Gmw89

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After 15 days the compounds don't just leave your system all together they gradually get lesser and lesser until they are out hence the long waiting period between your last shot of deca and pct.Trying to pct to early will be like jump starting a car thats already running.If you that worried about your time period between last shot and pct you can run a bridge of Winstrol,Anavar,MHR or even a sarm.And if you don't want to run an oral then bridge with a fast acting test ester like prop or phenyl prop but note that your injection frequency will be higher.

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11 Sep 2018 15:47 #217517 by JackedJon

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I am extremely worried about deca dick, I have researched Caber but it’s availability is niks and I wouldn’t know where to find it, to be honest I might just run a simpler cycle of Dbol 30mg for 4 weeks then Test C 500mg for 12weeks . I also saw ciccolibido by Ciccone but I’m unsure does anyone know about it or used it in the past that could possibly enlighten me about it?

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Hoosain
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11 Sep 2018 21:21 #217520 by Hoosain

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Beginners cycle like admin said. Test cyp for 10-12 weeks. Kick start with dbol or even anavar if you want lean muscle

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11 Sep 2018 23:56 #217521 by JackedJon

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Do you think ending with Winstrol at 30mg to end off cycle week 8-12 is pushing it ?

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12 Sep 2018 09:14 #217522 by Xpornstar

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The ciccolibido is testosterone undeconate, it's really only used in testosterone replacement therapy for those with a needle phobia - very long Ester that means you can have 6-8 weeks between trt level injections. It's gone out of favour because of the risks of an embolism because of the large volume injected (usually 4-5ml).... It's a generic of nebido made by Bayer labs (I think)....

Looking at this thread, all I can recommend is keep it simple. There's loads of time to experiment with anabolics. For most beginners a simple test C @ 250-500mg/week is more than enough to experience incredible gains.

Once you've done a few test only cycles, you can then move onto adding in dbol, deca, etc.

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12 Sep 2018 09:37 #217524 by esgaroth

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I would listen to the general advice everyone is giving regarding a first cycle.

Keep it simple and learn how your body reacts to gear. It is a learning curve and the last thing you want is to over complicate something you are still learning about.

You will see great results with running a simpler cycle.

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Gmw89
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12 Sep 2018 10:46 #217526 by Gmw89

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Agree with the gents apologies for complicating things,all you are going to need is two 10ml bottles of test c/e ,an ai just in case ,hcg ,nolva and clomid finish and klaar.2 shots of 1ml each per week (depends on mg per ml of product)and obviously then your diet will decide the outcome of the cycle.

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12 Sep 2018 11:03 #217527 by Hoosain

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JackedJon wrote: Do you think ending with Winstrol at 30mg to end off cycle week 8-12 is pushing it ?

Ending off with with Winstrol is not a bad idea. I would start the winstrol the same day as my last shot and run it until a day or 2 before PCT starts (thats 4 weeks of winstrol if you're using test cyp)

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