General SARM discussion and questions

Nearing the end of my 12 weeks. Kept the dose at 5mg and will keep it there until I'm done. I haven't experienced anything which tells me I am suppressed. My libido has been up since I started the run, testicles are sometimes very full, or sometimes a bit smaller, but usually the same size as always. I don't have bloods, unfortunately, to really say what's going on.

I am really enjoying LGD4033 and will do another run after some time off. Do we follow the same principle with SARMS? Time on + PCT = Time off?

For the next run I might add some MK677 to the mix. Trying to get back to about 95kgs by December.

**Edit:

I just want to add, the one thing I despise about pinning is the oily skin and pimples. Towards the end of my cycle and after PCT I'm growing volcanoes on my back and shoulders and it takes a fucking long time to clear. My pores are completely fucked after an AAS cycle. It's really nice to not have that problem, but still feel anabolic (although not close to that feeling of being "on").

Keen to try Rad140, too, and add it to the mix.

I have used RAD 140 I love the compound.

You made me want to try LGD now. Thanks for the feedback man.

I treat my SARM cycles like you laid out. Just like I would if I was running an oral AAS cycle.

lipid profile would have been interesting to see how u where affected.

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: I have used RAD 140 I love the compound.

You made me want to try LGD now. Thanks for the feedback man.

I treat my SARM cycles like you laid out. Just like I would if I was running an oral AAS cycle.

I don't want to hype shit purely for the reason that everything is subjective and when people hype stuff, I'm usually disappointed.


LGD doesn't come close to Test or any oral. However, I am able to compartmentalize the effects of pinning and something like a SARM and realize that they are two different kettles of fish- looking at it through this lense, LGD is very potent.

Witwolf wrote:

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: I have used RAD 140 I love the compound.

You made me want to try LGD now. Thanks for the feedback man.

I treat my SARM cycles like you laid out. Just like I would if I was running an oral AAS cycle.

I don't want to hype shit purely for the reason that everything is subjective and when people hype stuff, I'm usually disappointed.


LGD doesn't come close to Test or any oral. However, I am able to compartmentalize the effects of pinning and something like a SARM and realize that they are two different kettles of fish- looking at it through this lense, LGD is very potent.

Sorry correct me if i am wrong...what u are saying is that u are pinning less because of the sarm?

I wanna give that cardanine a try, sounds promising :lol:

Can't wait for Liquid Pharmaceuticals S4 to come out and stack that with RAD 140 for 12 weeks.

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Can't wait for Liquid Pharmaceuticals S4 to come out and stack that with RAD 140 for 12 weeks.

Apparently the vision sides (to those who experience it) are quite rough at night, ie, night blindless. I have read of one guy who enjoyed the latter, because his wife became and obscured silhouette at night.

From what I have read people are claiming that LGD4033 comes very, very close to S4 (even that it's stronger). Obviously, all subjectivity aside, one needs to play the game and see what works best.

I had good results on LGD4033 and am looking forward to my next run. S4 might be added when it gets released though I already wear contacts and am basically blind without them. Vision isn't something I want to fuck with (I haven't heard of the vision sides NOT subsiding eventually). Irrespective...

From what I have read the vison sides are not permanent they stop like in a week or two after ceasing the S4. I think doing only 50mg per day or going 5 days on 2days off should mitigate it. But lets wait and see when it gets released.

I suffered badly from the yellow tinted vision in 2010 when I last tried it. I believe LP is dosing caps at 25mg this time round so that we have more flexibility to play around with dosages. Perhaps 25mg of S-4 stacked with another SARM will give better effects without the vision side-effects.

I would really like to know what SARMs you guys stack, because some say there's a synergistic effect between them and I would like to know if that's the case.

Hey guys

I've got no experience at all with SARMS, sorry admin can't help with your stack info, but I'm interested !

I'm thinking of running a Cardarine and LDG 4033 stack. Both at 10mg each/day for 6 or 8 weeks, I might up the Cardarine to 20mg/day depending on how I feel).
Goals are to at least maintain LBM and decrease body fat percentage. Diet will obviously be in order. I'm on TRT so would run this alongside my usual TRT which is 200mg Test Cyp/week. I'm interested in S4 but the visual sides concern me.

Any pointers on dosage or cycle length, or better SARMs to consider?

Cheers

10mg LGD and 20mg GW and you should be good take one dose of each AM and one dose pre workout.

Thanks Rooi, appreciate it.

Hey guys.

Firstly sorry if these questions have been addressed but I would really appreciate some feedback.

1. With stacking GW and MK677 has anyone experienced the edema side effect from MK (water retention) or is that not really a thing to worry about?

2. I know the cancer story with GW and I am comfortable with taking the low doses and feeling safe. I would like to know if anyone has had any blood tests or scans done encase of the(unlikely) possible side effects after using GW once or multiple times?

3. Last one here. In a different post it was said to be safe to do this stack during PCT without causing any adverse bad effects. Has anyone actually done this during a pct? Any feedback would be really great!

Thanks guys

MasterMuzz wrote: Hey guys.

Firstly sorry if these questions have been addressed but I would really appreciate some feedback.

1. With stacking GW and MK677 has anyone experienced the edema side effect from MK (water retention) or is that not really a thing to worry about?

2. I know the cancer story with GW and I am comfortable with taking the low doses and feeling safe. I would like to know if anyone has had any blood tests or scans done encase of the(unlikely) possible side effects after using GW once or multiple times?

3. Last one here. In a different post it was said to be safe to do this stack during PCT without causing any adverse bad effects. Has anyone actually done this during a pct? Any feedback would be really great!

Thanks guys

1: Yes, it's a very common side-effect caused by the MK. Well documented on the forum.
2: Not that I know of, but unless you know what to look and test for it's highly unlikely that anyone will do random tests for "cancer".
3: MK and GW is safe during PCT as they don't suppress the HPTA axis.

Okay thanks Admin!

So with a clean diet, low sodium intake and lots of water and cardio a few times a week - do you think it’s more possible to keep the water retention to a minimum?

MasterMuzz wrote: Okay thanks Admin!

So with a clean diet, low sodium intake and lots of water and cardio a few times a week - do you think it’s more possible to keep the water retention to a minimum?

You’ll likely still have water retention from the MK.

If the water retention scares you then get some Dandeion Root. Or Pharma Freak Diuretic.

At the 3-4 week mark the water retetion that is not that bad but noticeable from the start subsides along with the appetite.

If your diet is clean and carbs are also from clean sources and not excesive then the water bloat wil still be noticeable but by no means to the extent that it will ruin a physique.

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: If the water retention scares you then get some Dandeion Root. Or Pharma Freak Diuretic.

At the 3-4 week mark the water retetion that is not that bad but noticeable from the start subsides along with the appetite.

If your diet is clean and carbs are also from clean sources and not excesive then the water bloat wil still be noticeable but by no means to the extent that it will ruin a physique.

Thanks Rooi, I can do all of that! I’ve just come of a test E and Var cycle. I’ve made great progress and I am working very hard! I would like to add depth to my physique and maintain the lean mass.

I feel that the MK and GW stack will be perfect for that!
Thank you.

Any reason why you want to limit water retention?

Pyroclasm wrote: Any reason why you want to limit water retention?

Not really, I don't mind a bit of water retention as long as body fat will be dropping. currently at 10% BF. Goal is 7% BF in the next four months, diet is in check, training is great, water consumption is always on point with me and sleep could be better.

Also, from anyones experience is it more muscular water retention? or is the puffy looking kind?.....or are they one and the same?

For me I get a bit of both...

First the muscle starts getiing fuller and then the next week it starts under the skin.

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: For me I get a bit of both...

First the muscle starts getiing fuller and then the next week it starts under the skin.

Thanks Rooi, how would you compare it(water retention) to something like creatine or other AAS?

Ag I don’t really mind holding a bit of water for a while, as you said it does fade after 3-4 weeks(sure that’s individually dependent) I’m just curious to find out more on SARMs from your personal experiences.

A bit more than creatine but not like any aas I can think of.