Cycle advice

Hi Guys,

I was wondering if anyone can shed some light and help a ironlifter out...

I am currently on cycle:
x3 Week - Pgw test prop, pinned 1ml x3 a week (100mg) and started arimadex on my second week used every 2nd-3rd day a week.
4-12 week - Pgw Supertest 320mg, Pgw Tren ace 80mg and Genetix anavar 25mg, pin tren x3 times a week, test x2 a week 75mg anavar a day and arimadex every 2nd-3rd day.

Diet on par!

Should I pin anywhere besides by rhino developing ass? :lol:

What are your suggestions?

Cycle history, gym history and stats please.

The way you posted your cycle lay out makes it look like a mess. Please try and give a better lay out breakdown.

Hi Pyroclasm,

Age: 23
Height: 1.83m
Weight: 98kg
Training duration: 8 years
Steroid duration: 4 years

1-3week: Test prop, pinned 1ml x3 times a week
3-12: Supertest320, pin 1ml x2 a week, Tren ace80, 1ml x3 week, 100mg anavar a day and arimadex 1 tablet every 2nd day.

PCT: HCG, clomid and nolvadex

I was thinking of starting HD Labs GHRP-6 in my 5th week until end of cycle. I have picked up 4kg on the supertest and tren cycle.

What week of the cycle are you in? Always start a cycle with the longer esters so they kick in as early as possible. This is how I would run the cycle:

Week 1-12 Supertest 0.7ml 3xPW
Week 1-3 Test Prop 1ml 3xPW
Week 4-11 Tren Ace 40mg pinned ED (yes really, everyday)
Week 7-11 Winstrol 10mg 4xED
Week 1-13 Masteron En 150mg 3x PW (If you have the cash otherwise leave it)
Week 14-15 Superdrol 2x10mg ED
Week 3-15 HCG 250iu 2x PW
Week 16 Start PCT

From 2 weeks before cycle to end of PCT: Essentiale Extreme 1 tab ED

For estrogen and prolactin control:
Week 1-12 Aromasin (dosage depends on the individual)
Week 3-12 Cabasser (dosage depends on the individual)

Hey man,

Thanks a lot for the response. I am on week 6 now and started my HD Labs GHRP-6 today.

I will defiantly take note of what you said.

Jack3dJones wrote: Hi Guys,

I was wondering if anyone can shed some light and help a ironlifter out...

I am currently on cycle:
x3 Week - Pgw test prop, pinned 1ml x3 a week (100mg) and started arimadex on my second week used every 2nd-3rd day a week.
4-12 week - Pgw Supertest 320mg, Pgw Tren ace 80mg and Genetix anavar 25mg, pin tren x3 times a week, test x2 a week 75mg anavar a day and arimadex every 2nd-3rd day.

Diet on par!

Should I pin anywhere besides by rhino developing ass? :lol:

What are your suggestions?

Hi Bud, not the way I would have structured the cycle, but you're in it now. Advise-Keep the supertest in the glutes as it hurts like fuck as you know by now and I would rather pin 2ml (640mg) a week in one load instead of splitting it, the esters are long and weekly is fine. I've pinned in the deltoid before and was not pleasant and I'm active at work so I need the use of my shoulder lol. You can rotate sites for the tren, left glute, right glute, left delt, right delt, left upper quad,right upper quad and even traps if youre keen. I would rather look at pinning it daily or at best every second day. Good luck

The reason for pinning more frequently is to keep blood plasma levels more stable, because more stable means less side effects and kess aromotisation. Supertest has 3 short esters- propionate, phenylpropionate, and isocapraote, which have to be pinned more frequently than medium esters (enanthate and cypionate). In a study comparing side effects of pinning Test-En once a week vs twice a week, the study found a negligible difference in muscle gain but noted a big differenece in terms of side effects, especially gyno and androgen sides. Hence, for Test-En and Test-Cyp I recommend to pin twice a week, unless you have tried once per week and you are fine with the additional side effects. Back to the short esters, they would have to be pinned at least 3x per week, but ideally EOD to keep levels more stable. So for Supertest, it's true that the longer esters keep levels more stable, and approx. 1/3 of the Supertest is short esters. Hence, I recommend pinning Supertest 3x per week to those who ask. For your second time using ST, if little side effects were experienced the first time you can try to pin twice a week and see how it goes.