Starting my first bulking cycle Friday ;-)

I'm looking to go on a cycle but find it hard to get hold of the stuff, I live in cpt. Can you help me pls.

Greetings,

Okay this is really weird, as per you guys know from this thread already I am on my first cycle. Currently on 30mg per day dianabol. On 5th day and noticeably I have a good increase in speed for recovery time also picked up 4.5kilos already. The only part that I don't seem to understand is I have noticed no increase in strength as yet. I was expecting a good increase in weight lifting strength?!?!?

Try adding more carbs to your diet, D-Bol is a mass drug after all. You diet cannot be too lean when using the stuff either.

To answer Jack Rabbit and Djeasye I need full details of your cycle (got the doses and product jackrabbit but need to know the exact length -was it 2 weeks only or were there other products and I need to know the length of the cycle in total)I dont think you will need more than 1 box Pregnyl(1500iu)

Previously
100mg TestProp + 100mg Masteron EOD Nov/Dec
100mg TestProp EOD + 50 mg Anavar/day - Jan/Feb

Next 12-16 weeks:
100 mg NPP EOD (700 over 2 and 350/week)
130 mg Test Prop EOD (910 over 2 and 445/week)
40-60 mg Anavar/day

(Yeah i know.....but the results are nice)

I will be pretty much shut-down completely - had full bloodwork recently

SHBG - 6.5 (11.4-52.3)
Total Test 4.5 (7.3 - 27.1)
Free calculated 154.9 (181-536)

(Age:40 - still wondering whether i shouldn't just stay on TestE at 100mg/week after... but thats another story)

I have 1 box pregnyl + 2 boxes Kessar already.

Sorry for the late reply,Well 12 weeks of EOD shots maybe change your name to pin-cusion-damn thats +/- 42 shots!!!
Looking at your blood work and your cycle I can see that youre pretty much shut down already but thats what happens on cycle.
This is what I would recommend for the rest of your cycle-
starting the second week in March start Pregnyl at 300iu's 2 x week(Mon+Thurs) and do that every week up until the last NNP shot 3 days after the last NNP shot take 750iu's and again after a futher 3 days another 750iu shot,wait 2 days and start PCT at 50mg Clomid for 21 days ,due to the fact that NNP is a lot shorter acting than the other nandrolones after 21 days Clomid go on to 10mg Kessar for 14 days thats it for PCT (blood work would be good now if possible to see were we stand)I would also advise Proviron @ 25mg/day starting 3 weeks before (or even earlier funds allowing )the end of the cycle (Wk 10+11+12)and running all the way through PCT till the Clomid ends(3rd Wk of PCT)If you can afford and get hold of HGH it is always a great weapon to add to your PCT stack(even at 2iu's/day)I have always found it to help maintain new found mass attained from the cycle as well as keeping the fat off .I hope you can understand what I have written

Thanks Conan,
Enquiring about the extra HCG, clomid and Proviron as we speak.
Looks like Ovidrel is replacing Pregnyl - what sort of dosages here?
How does the Proviron affect the Avavar in my cycle?

Orvidrel is basically HCG(human chorionic gonadotropin- Orvidrel's active ingredient choriogonadotropin-alpha )and comes in a 250 mcg preloaded syringe (which can save the task of dividing up the 1500iu and 5000iu amps but I'm not sure of the price yet ???)I must be honest I have not done any research on its effects (but I assume they will be the same as Pregnyl)I will get back to you on this.

Looks like the Doc has a full comprehensive account of this product on the 'availability of Pregyl' post(PCT part of forum) - please check it out!

If you have a look at what I said in the other post, using the HCG during the last 2-3 weeks of your AAS cycle at the dosage which Conan said, helps in "priming" your testii for the full onslaught of PCT. I, personally, would start with the Kessar the moment I start with the full dose of HCG, as the later does produce quite a bit of estrogenic side effects , which can be countered by the Kessar. Also, Kessar at 20mg can(and this is from medical studies) increase your natural test levels by as much as 250-300%. For this reason too, I would start it with the stimulating effect from the HCG. But that's just what I would do personally. Also, it depends on how sensitive you are at estrogenic side effects...
Don't dispair about your blood work - I have seen worse than that before.

On how you dispense the Ovidrel. The company is not very clear about how quickly it should be dispensed after reconstitution. It is produced by the same method as HGH, which we all know, becomes very unstable through denaturation process after 48h after reconstitution - hence, always use all your HGH within 48h. I'm not sure how long Ovidrel can be kept for multiple dosing, but what I would suggest, is to reconstitute it in a multi-dose vial, say at a total volume of 1 cc. Then, use an insulin syringe marked off in IU's. 5 IU's in the insulin syringe of this Ovidrex solution, will then equal the effective dose of 500IU's of Pregnyl. Just try and keep the cold chain as good as possible.

Another thing to consider, is to "bridge" your PCT with a VERY LOW dose oral. Studies show, for instance, that D-bol used at 5-10mg per day, gives positive nitrogen retention in HIV patients, without suppressing their HPTA(HYPOTHALAMUS-PITUARY-TESTIS AXIS). And orals, especially Winstrol, D-bol and Anavar increase IGF-1. Just something to consider...

Wow, okay when I said d-bol aint giving me a strength increase I was dead wrong... 6th day on at 30mg per day d-bol now and lost 1.4 kilos now from 80kilos, seems like my weight is linked to a petrol price model. but I am benching 10kilos more and arm curls went from 35kg/40kg to 60kilos.. I tried to see if I could fit in a 4th set of curls and did 7 and half reps at 80kilos! Even did extra exercises... For a guy the weights 78.6Kilos at 11%+ body fat i think my bulking cycle is proofing muscles can pop out like mushrooms Even had people asking me how I was able to pick up so much weight in the gym.. i don't i ever felt this motivated before.

80 kg arm curls ? you're strong I'm 115kg and I can't do that weight -- Where did you get those dbol,, I wouldn't mind trying some

Yeah 80kg LOL i cant wait to show my personal trainer. He kills me on reps and low weight, but first thing tomorrow I am going to challenge myself on the first set and do bicep just to brag.. lol..

Its NoMAD Methandrostenolone(dianabol), you get 50 tabs of 10mg each. Little blue tab with N on it. I take 30mg, going up to 40mg on last two weeks. four weeks of dbol oral as per the first cycle I posted that started this thread. Just modified slightly. Its working for me... no complaints yet... feel great, and I have had no side effects yet.. Taking it with some other supps like creatine from neutripure etc.. Although I must say I am much more aggressive.. exceptionally so. Although I am able to control myself... although from horrible detox tea i have been drinking.. does not go down well, especially on empty stomach, gives you some serious gitters... (puts a whole new meaning to leaving skid marks on the s-bend)

Yep nomad Dbol is nice,, tastes like sweeties

Damn right Batty!!! You do realise thats a full bodyweight curl...for 7.5 reps!
You've got to give powerlifting(not to mention arm-wrestling) a bash, your power to weight ratio is world class.

Shot Conan! Yeah I was comparing with the rest of the look like they body builders and I am like half their size pushing more weight.. Look I only noticed I could pick up so much weight today while on cycle. So will have to see how far I can get and how much I can maintain. For a small little guy like me I must admit I this is a big surprise. I just need more strength in my back,shoulders and chest.. but my biceps and forearms are like really strong now. I just need to get em bigger Will worry about getting lean once I am off the bulking cycle. Now I just want to build as much size and strength as possible. I got one worry though, I train with my PT legs every sunday.. My legs are getting huge (out of proportion big) but he kills them so badly on the leg presses that I can barely walk during the week for like five days... So I am not getting in much cardio and sometimes none now. I am thinking of dropping the leg training all together and just keep on running to keep my BF down.. What would be the right thing todo here?

Can I ask you what you squat bench and dead poundages are?that was the very same reason I started powerlifting.also how tall are you?

Hey, I am 179cm/180cm tall uhm not looking very lean right now, but not a concern at this time. I have no idea how much my barbell bench squats is or dead lifts... Guess I will have to try and see. Not something I particularly do in my training. Trying to get to my target, would like to add another 15kilos if not more. Then will revise and get involved in some sort of sport.

vision just a piece of advice, you are on d-bols now that does make you pretty strong. Just dont get overconfident whilst "on cycle" as you're tendons need time to adapt to the rapid increase in weights you use in the gym. I tore a muscle in my shoulder bout a year ago from not heeding the same advice im giving you.

Conan, what would you say are good measures of strength? Like curling your body weight is good. what would good ratios be for say bench, squat and dealift? Is there a ratio one can use when looking at your body weight?

Ok now I cant say 100% for sure but because there are a lot of factors that need to be considered but I never have met a person who can curl his bodyweight for 7 reps and I have been to five world championships(not that curling is compared but I've trained with some strong men and competed with some of the strongest)and maybe 1 or 2 cheat reps by guys in the 52kg - 75kg-but 7 I would say is elite +.
To answer the question on strength as relates to the squat bench+ dead ;its hard to say but for guys 82.5kg and under with just a belt and a little(1years) training-Squat 3 x bodyweight ;Bench 1.5-2 x bodyweight ;deadlift 3 x bodyweight
and for the heavier guys -the %of bodyweight will be lower.But if you can do what I've outlined with no equipment then your your power:weight ratio is above normal and powerlifting might be the right game for you.(please this is a broad outline )

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Okay I have a little problem... All has been going as planned and I got pretty strong on the dbols in the beginning of this cycle till now. When it comes to my diet I have been pretty much spot on. One of my friends is on the same cycle. The difference is I eat more than he does per day in general and mostly good food, he eats take-aways and junk food mostly. Except that we have to two different brands of protein I take way more in that he does. Also I have more rest days and he trains almost everyday... Training experience I would say I am far more advanced than him and I was way bigger than him. I drink salt tablets and all sorts of items to help with cramps while he has no cramps. Now his picking up more weight than I do, and his getting more puffy way quicker and has absolutly no injuries? I am getting cramps, terrible aches everywhere. My recovery time is slower now too. His also catching up in strength and it some places even better than me. We bought our stuff from the same guy and same time... same brand etc...

I got like tendonites or something in my fore-arms and leg muscles i can feel cramp quickly under just a little bit of strain. I assume maybe from too much weight too soon? I take in salt tablets and tried increasing but this has no effect on the cramps... My body is simply not recovering properly.. His flying through this without a single ache, cramp or pain and his growing? What on earth am I doing wrong? Seriouslly should I start eating KFC for lunch?

What can I do to help my body recover? If recovery could be the issue. any questions? I am overdosing on anything I think I might be lacking and yeah I am taking in more calories carbs and protein than most Ps body builders,, this doesn't seem to be helping... even gave up on the eating lean thing.. since I am on a bulking cycle...

Maybe you are ectomorphic in build and he is endo-mesomorphic. It sounds so if I compare the metabolisms... Then you will need to rest more to keep on growing...

Maybe I should stop moaning and just exercise through the pain..

So now what about is common forearm injury?

The only issue is and LOTS of people have this or had it.. Most of them said they solved the problem by not training for several weeks... I cant afford not to train my biceps some what now. When I pick up bar-bell and curl it hurts when I rest on top.... While the weight is applying pressure my fore-arm feels hundreds and no pain what so ever. How ever when I put the weight down on the floor and just as I let go and release it with my hands my forearms have this extreme ache stinging pain.. And it doesnt feel like my forearm muscle. This is on both arms... My trainer checked the way I do the exercise and ses its a strain from going to heavy to quick.. Lol which I am doing by far. So now what? Now I am back down to pick up feather duster weights till my arms get better... This pain still not going away though.

Any advice?