Tbol vs Dbol

Why is Tbol so much more expensive than Dbol if the mass gains are minimal on Tbol? Are you paying that much more to go without bloat? Just want to see what you guys think of them and which side you are on.

Usually less side-effects equals higher price, because the sissies are willing to spend more instead of getting gyno.

Not sure why it's so expensive but I'd take 40mg tbol over 40mg dbol any day!! Love the stuff

Your compounds that leave longer lasting gains are generally more expensive than others. But like admin said, the fewer the side effects the more expensive too.

If you use anavar Tbol or primo, your gains will hanhave around longer than if you were using the cheaper things that cause massive gains and water retention.

Like jono said, I'd also rather take tbol over dbol. On tbol I just get one hell of lower back pump.

Delts wrote: Like jono said, I'd also rather take tbol over dbol. On tbol I just get one hell of lower back pump.

Even me with the pump, really good strength and decent size but the best part is you hold on to the gains

Around the 4 week mark I battled with that lower back pump, but I enjoyed the strength I got on tbol.

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Ok that is good to hear Jono. I was struggling deciding between Dbol and Tbol because of the Dbol sides (plus I am really not looking to pack on heaps of muscle since I am new to AAS, going to ease in).

And yes guys I know the best beginner cycle is test, but I will only be starting test at the end of this year, so I am going to ride on mild compounds and SARMS until then. Now that I think about it, Dbol was going to be a terrible choice if I went with it.

So as long as Tbol gains are 'noticeable' I think I am gonna go for it

You could do an oral cycle of tbol and proviron with pct 1, should give you a good starting point from there

It always amazes me when first time users ask about oral cycles that they think they are going to blow up and ado 30ks of muscle mass on to their frame.

Not taking a dig at you personally hodor, but think of this realistically. You wouldn't be taking steroids if you didn't want to add decent muscle mass to your frame. Imagine taking fillet steak of the weight of about 4-5kgs and covering your whole body with that meat, that is the realistic muscle gain on a yearly basis WITH the use of anabolic steroids in a long term cycling pct/trt cycling plan. Yes you may gain 5kgs in your first cycle but look at it realistically. This is your first cycle I am assuming so I have a feeling after 6 weeks you are going to be asking can you run it for longer. So why not take the plunge, do 400-500mg of test for 10-15 weeks with your Tbol to start. After that period of time you will come back and say that you are happy with the results over a short oral only cycle.

Yes Empire, that is what I was saying. I will never expect to add that much muscle nor use it for longer. I just want to get to my goal which is to lean out and add a minute amount of size.

I know people who were the largest retards I could ever imagine (I am talking dbol only cycles for 8 weeks and no pct). I can see the amount of mass they put on was staggering (and how they went straight back down and even below), I am not interested in that. One cannot say either that one would only take steroids to get huge, that is tunnel vision. People have different goals and what they want to look like. And like I said, I will be going on to testosterone, just not yet.

I can see your concerns and where you are coming from though and I thank you for that

Empire is correct, the end of the day testosterone should be the only compound if you not going to stack anything with it. Causing your testosterone levels to drop is not healthy for the body or one's mental state. Testosterone only or testosterone plus tbol/dbol but testosterone is a natural hormone your body creates so taking it is safest choice for a first cycle and having your body feel balanced.