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12 May 2017 16:59 - 12 May 2017 17:15 #209677 by BEN3
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Hello guys

Is it normal for BP to be slightly elevated while on cycle?

On a test e and deca cycle. Nurse said my BP is 160'over 89. Need it to come down below 150 over 80 for med aid purposes. Going to test again next week.
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12 May 2017 17:15 #209680 by Pyroclasm
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Yes it's normal for BP to increase on cycle. Your reading is too high it's unhealthy we need to tackle it. Are you using an AI? Any chronic meds?

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12 May 2017 18:27 #209684 by BEN3
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Yes pyro. I'm using liquid arimidex. And I'm on deselex daily. For sinus and hayfever.

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12 May 2017 19:03 #209685 by Pyroclasm
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I always found Deselex so expensive versus the generics. For BP an easy solution is a beta blocker. 20mg PurBloka morning and afternoon. This decreases your body's response to adrenaline type hormones, which directly decreases BP.

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12 May 2017 20:13 #209687 by BEN3
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I change between generics and other tablets also. So the body doesn't get use to it.
Med aid pays so it's fine.
Just tested at home now. 149 / 88.

Is there any sides with the blocker?
Must I use this blocker only while on cycle and re access after pct?

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12 May 2017 20:46 #209688 by Pyroclasm
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That's better. Remember your blood pressure fluctuates throughout the day so take BP first thing in the morning to get an accurate baseline. I would take BP tomorrow morning and assess. Sides on beta blocker at the right dosage is scarce. If you feel more tired than usual then half the dosage. You will find you handle stressful situations better as your anxiety/stress response will be less. For example if you make a speech normally your hands might start to sweat or you get anxious but with a beta blocker it basically goes away.

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13 May 2017 06:23 #209693 by BEN3
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Sounds great cause I don't handle stress great and little things stress me out.
Tested now, first thing in morning. 162/80

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13 May 2017 07:45 #209694 by BEN3
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Had apple cider and relaxed in bed. Tested again now and it is higher. 188/79

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13 May 2017 10:34 - 13 May 2017 10:35 #209695 by 00pump
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Hawthorn berry will bring it down and you won't need a script. Use it 3 times a day as the half life is short. You can get it from any health shop. It starts to work extremely quick. Also stay away from caffeine for now. If your BP still doesn't go down get yourself some dixarit or the generic menograine and take 2, 3 times day. It's been dropped to schedule 2 so you won't need a script either and an extremely great way to treat BP and at the same time is a cognative enhancer.

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13 May 2017 16:43 #209698 by Cyclo
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Hi,

Another important factor is that the nurse uses the right sized cuff. Often they only use the smaller one because it is more commonly used.

Generally they come in two sizes, 22-35cm and 35cm-45cm. There are very few sphygmomamometers that accomodates a 45cm+ cuff (read high end expensive) and most places are cheapskate and buy cheap and nasty (but still charge premium price)

Using a cuff that's too small will give an elevated BP. At work once the Occ. Nurse measured me and said I was slightly - moderately hypertensive (145/102), I knew this not to be and checked the cuff, low and behold, 22-35cm. I have ~39cm circumference, by no means "big" but bigger than average. Eventually he found the right cuff (he thought it was a "spare" and didn't even know about the circuference thing). Re-measured, and presto, 124/78.

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13 May 2017 21:14 #209699 by BEN3
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Hi guys and thanks a lot. Much appreciated.

Pump I bought the hawthorn. It's the solgar brand and it says. Hawthorn 250mg and berry powder 150mg per a capsule.
Took one take at lunch and one at supper. Measured now at 159/82. Will take one more before bed. And test first thing in the morning and post results.

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13 May 2017 21:16 #209700 by BEN3
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Hi cyclo. The cuff size on my own machine is large cuff, 34 - 48cm.
Not sure about the nurses size. Think I will carry my machine with me on Monday

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14 May 2017 07:20 #209701 by 00pump
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BEN3 wrote: Hi guys and thanks a lot. Much appreciated.

Pump I bought the hawthorn. It's the solgar brand and it says. Hawthorn 250mg and berry powder 150mg per a capsule.
Took one take at lunch and one at supper. Measured now at 159/82. Will take one more before bed. And test first thing in the morning and post results.


You more than likely going to need the clonidine (menograine) to get it to drop into the upper 130s

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14 May 2017 07:42 #209702 by BEN3
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Tested this morning. And it's 140/75.
How's that pump?
The nurse said anything under 150/80. Will be good to submit to med aid.
Going to continue with hawthorn. And monitor. Must I hang on with the menograine for now?

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14 May 2017 08:35 #209705 by 00pump
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BEN3 wrote: Tested this morning. And it's 140/75.
How's that pump?
The nurse said anything under 150/80. Will be good to submit to med aid.
Going to continue with hawthorn. And monitor. Must I hang on with the menograine for now?


Nice reading... If you hanging around there then that's great.. Always try get the most out of natural stuff first. Chamomile tea is also relaxing and helps with anxiety so having a few cups of that a day too will help your BP, chamomile has pages of benefits for ones body.

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14 May 2017 10:55 #209709 by BEN3
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Thanks a lot pump. Will get some of that tea also.

Will update this post as I go along.
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14 May 2017 15:56 #209715 by Xtreme
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If you can't get it down with natural products. Get a beta blocker or leave juice alone. There's a reason they call it the silent killer.

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14 May 2017 21:10 #209717 by Oupa
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Cyclo wrote: Hi,

Another important factor is that the nurse uses the right sized cuff. Often they only use the smaller one because it is more commonly used.

Generally they come in two sizes, 22-35cm and 35cm-45cm. There are very few sphygmomamometers that accomodates a 45cm+ cuff (read high end expensive) and most places are cheapskate and buy cheap and nasty (but still charge premium price)

Using a cuff that's too small will give an elevated BP. At work once the Occ. Nurse measured me and said I was slightly - moderately hypertensive (145/102), I knew this not to be and checked the cuff, low and behold, 22-35cm. I have ~39cm circumference, by no means "big" but bigger than average. Eventually he found the right cuff (he thought it was a "spare" and didn't even know about the circuference thing). Re-measured, and presto, 124/78.


Valuable info, always have the same shit

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15 May 2017 08:08 - 15 May 2017 08:35 #209726 by 00pump
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Xtreme wrote: If you can't get it down with natural products. Get a beta blocker or leave juice alone. There's a reason they call it the silent killer.


It is down, and a beta blocker it not recommended for first second or 3rd line of blood pressure treatment. There are many other options before you start to play with your hearts rhythm.

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