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Is this oral product legit or is it a fake?
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If you want to use testosterone inject it, and don't destroy your liver and then have to go onto PCT which will destroy it further.
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I haven't tried running it without a "kick start" since my first cycle so I will take your suggestion and give it a shot.It will be a nice change up and variation which I was looking for.Thanks for the help ,it's much appreciated.
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This!00pump wrote: No, it's is extremely toxic. I wouldn't put it in my body, put it that way. Use TBol / DBol / Winstrol / etc, to kick start. Do you need to kickstart? no, I personally think it's a absolute waste of time and all you doing is throwing your hormones around in your body. If you taking a long ester, start it and continue with it at the same dose, and stop, maybe ride out the time to PCT with a oral and then PCT... But I personally don't believe in kick starting.. What are you kickstarting ? Are you speeding up the long esters chance to respond? nope. All you doing in throwing in a quicker acting substance so you can start to get affects like better protein synthesis quicker.. If that is the case then why not start the cycle 3 weeks earlier? It really is a strange thing, everyone want to get things going so quick when they decide to use a steroid.. This is a sprint it's a marathon, slow and steady.. However I know majority of people will disagree with my thinking and say a kickstart is required.. Thing is I'm not telling you what they would do or saying what i'm advising is the best answer, but for me, slow and steady. But not putting 4/6 weeks of orals in the start of your cycle, you can with ease push the test for another 4 to 8 weeks at the end of a cycle and sustain less damage than putting a C17 (methyl group) through your liver.
I'm still new to the game, with only 4 cycles behind me, but even in that short time I couldn't agree more. I'm not a professional bodybuilder, my income doesn't depend on having unnatural size, strength, vascularity, etc. I love training. I love building muscle. I love playing with my diet. Its my hobby. Its my lifestyle. I'm in it for the long run. DBol was a lot of fun, but the drastic inflate / deflate process I found kind of demotivating. The sides that come with other orals I found unnecessary in terms of sustainable reward. For me.... I've learned that slow and steady and consistent wins. Stick to testosterone, minimise the hormonal chaos, train, eat, sleep. Can't go wrong. Just my 2c.
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Muscleaddict wrote: Guys this is methyl 1-testosterone, not methyl testosterone which is very kak and very toxic. Methyl 1-test gives very good gains (which you won't keep much of) but is also extremely toxic. Harsher than anadrol or supedrol. Not to be messed with, and definitely not something to consider if you drink alcohol at all or take any meds that strain the liver.
Just as harsh then.
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00pump wrote: No, it's is extremely toxic. I wouldn't put it in my body, put it that way. Use TBol / DBol / Winstrol / etc, to kick start. Do you need to kickstart? no, I personally think it's a absolute waste of time and all you doing is throwing your hormones around in your body. If you taking a long ester, start it and continue with it at the same dose, and stop, maybe ride out the time to PCT with a oral and then PCT... But I personally don't believe in kick starting.. What are you kickstarting ? Are you speeding up the long esters chance to respond? nope. All you doing in throwing in a quicker acting substance so you can start to get affects like better protein synthesis quicker.. If that is the case then why not start the cycle 3 weeks earlier? It really is a strange thing, everyone want to get things going so quick when they decide to use a steroid.. This is a sprint it's a marathon, slow and steady.. However I know majority of people will disagree with my thinking and say a kickstart is required.. Thing is I'm not telling you what they would do or saying what i'm advising is the best answer, but for me, slow and steady. But not putting 4/6 weeks of orals in the start of your cycle, you can with ease push the test for another 4 to 8 weeks at the end of a cycle and sustain less damage than putting a C17 (methyl group) through your liver.
blady awesome post!!! when i do cycle i won't need a kickstart after seeing this. will use those few weeks to take advantage of placebo after my first pin
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Also used Deca and something called orabolin also prescribed by another Doc back in the early 90's, but haven't seen or heard of that one since. His waiting rooms looked like backstage at a bodybuilding contest, not a sick person to be seen! :whistle:
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