Ostarine (MK2866) & Cardarine (GW501516) Cycle

OPTRON
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22 Jul 2016 09:19 #201775 by OPTRON

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I am one week into my PCT for OUPA's crossfit Cyle and everything is going good..

Planning to start Monday with a 8 week Ostarine, 15mg per day & Cardarine, 20mg per day cycle.

After the 8 weeks I am looking to do just a mini pct consisting of just Aromasin @ 20mg per day for 30 days.

Input please on starting this cycle while still in PCT and also on the Aromasin for a mini PCT after the 8 weeks?

Appreciate!

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Muscleaddict
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22 Jul 2016 10:18 #201777 by Muscleaddict

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Aromasin at 20mg/day without any aromatising steroids or HCG will drop your E2 way too low to unhealthly numbers. 20mg EOD is more than enough to benefit from the elevated T levels, but I don't see much point in using it after a cycle that has no direct effect on estrogen.

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22 Jul 2016 12:17 #201784 by OPTRON

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Thanks Muscleaddict, appreciate. Wasn't sure about the so-called mini PCT for the specific combined cycle. All research and profiles suggest a mini PCT. I would prefer not to mess with a PCT if not necessary.

What would you suggest after the 8 weeks? Maybe just a good rest?

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Rooi Bul 86
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22 Jul 2016 14:15 #201789 by Rooi Bul 86

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Optron I would not run Ostarine in PCT there was a study done 3mg starts becoming suppressive. On PCT GW/Cardarine is your best bet.

SARMS except MK677 are suppressive. But they wil not suppress or shut you down like steroids they are safer and friendlier than steroids you do not have so much to worry and stress about only the suppression.

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Rooi Bul 86
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22 Jul 2016 15:09 - 22 Jul 2016 15:15 #201791 by Rooi Bul 86

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Quoted from the study.

This data demonstrates that Ostarine is total testosterone suppressive but free testosterone, LH and FSH were not statistically suppressed.

Please note this was at 3mg per day. In old men 60+

So like RAD Testosterone in suppressed but LH and FSH not significantly like with steroids. So recovery should be very easy. Like Clomid only for 2weeks at 50mg per day or Nolvadex @ 20mg per day for 15 days

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Oupa
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22 Jul 2016 16:28 #201795 by Oupa

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Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Like Clomid only for 2weeks at 50mg per day or Nolvadex @ 20mg per day for 15 days

Where did you get this PCT from?

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Rooi Bul 86
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22 Jul 2016 16:40 - 22 Jul 2016 16:42 #201797 by Rooi Bul 86

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Same place I got the one from were I say after RAD I would recommend at least Nolvadex at 20mg per day for 30days. Sure with regards to the above if a user wishes to do Clomid 15days and Nolvadex 30days go for it. If he wants to do Nolvadex at 20mg for 30 days go for it.

But hey I would Say any PCT is better than no PCT...

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Eidolon
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23 Jul 2016 03:47 #201804 by Eidolon

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The PCTs on this site are some of the best I've ever seen. I'm not sure why you would recommend something random you spotted on another website, RB. No disrespect intended, of course, but we can all use google.

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Rooi Bul 86
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23 Jul 2016 04:52 - 23 Jul 2016 04:55 #201805 by Rooi Bul 86

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Did I mention any websites for PCT recommendations? No I did not...

14 days Clomid @ 50mg ED and Nolvadex @ 20mg ED is what most of us on Here do now for oral only.

I did not see anyone else recommending a better or for that matter and PCT for post SARM cycle so let's see them?

So if anyone asks for SARM help or guidance what are we going to tell them? We can all use google...

Nice

So there you have it guys go use Google happy hunting.

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Oupa
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23 Jul 2016 09:36 #201812 by Oupa

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Ek stem saam met Eidolon. Die rede hoekom ek vra is want jy kannie enige iets wat vir jou sin maak i.v.m steroids of PCT op die forums post nie. Ander mense lees dit en gebruik dit so.

If you have personally tried it, and its worked for you, then you input is welcome.

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23 Jul 2016 09:43 #201813 by 00pump

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Those quick Clomid PCT'S are very out dated protocols. I'd prefer to over Cook a PCT and guarantee recovery instead of having to redo it weeks or months down the line.

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Rooi Bul 86
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23 Jul 2016 10:27 #201815 by Rooi Bul 86

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On the chin

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25 Jul 2016 09:41 #201891 by OPTRON

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Morning guys, thanks for all the input and sorry for the late reply.

I am still however a little unsure of how to approach the recovery process...

I realize that we don't yet know the full effects that Ostarine might have on the suppression and thus the uncertainties regarding a specific pct, if even necessary...

I get and understand the point that one should try and stay clear of google and relying on research on the internet, but what else is there to do in this situation as there is no real experience to reply on?

Can a mini pct, as Rooibul suggested, have a negative impact on the said cycle? What would the impact of Nolvadex at 20mg be if there isn't really suppression?

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25 Jul 2016 10:13 #201894 by admin

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OPTRON wrote: Can a mini pct, as Rooibul suggested, have a negative impact on the said cycle? What would the impact of Nolvadex at 20mg be if there isn't really suppression?

No negative impact and it can only be beneficial even if there were no suppression.

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25 Jul 2016 10:20 #201895 by OPTRON

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No negative impact and it can only be beneficial even if there were no suppression.[/quote]

Thanks Admin. Then it would only make sense to be rather safe than sorry and to include 20mg Nolvadex as a PCT at the end of the 8 weeks.

Lets see how it goes. I will keep good track of my progress and any possible sides and maybe in the process gain some experience which can help in the future.

Thanks for all the input and please feel free to update if any new information or suggestions come to mind.

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DruOmedra
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25 Jul 2016 13:43 - 25 Jul 2016 13:47 #201907 by DruOmedra

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I will be trying RAD 140 and Ostarine. Will share my results as well - the more we learn the better yeah.

A lot of sources say not to stack them, so I'll either do the ostarine now and stack the RAD with my test e cycle or I'll just stack both anyways.

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Rooi Bul 86
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25 Jul 2016 15:08 #201912 by Rooi Bul 86

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Dru.

I would not stack yet. Run the SARMS 8weeks each sole to first see what each does for you and to you and how you respond.

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26 Jul 2016 02:49 #201927 by DruOmedra

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Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Dru.

I would not stack yet. Run the SARMS 8weeks each sole to first see what each does for you and to you and how you respond.

Fair enough, there's some conflicting info.

I've found studies that say RAD 140 started suppressing subjects after 42 days.
Most people state that just taking 1 sarm won't require PCT, but stacking them could. I actually asked EnhancedAthlete and he said that PCT should for sure follow a RAD-140, Ostarine and GW 501 stack.

So I think I'll see - based on that I guess I'll run Ostarine first.

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Rooi Bul 86
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26 Jul 2016 07:32 #201939 by Rooi Bul 86

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GW and MK677 won't require PCT.

Not even if you stack them.

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