Shocking and uneducated info going around...

I might step on a few toes here, but that's fine.

I've been a member on this site since 2013, although I only have about 120 posts. The reason I joined the forum, was to learn and get expert and informed advise. Till this day I try to read almost every post made.

What concerns me, is new guys. Guys who also came here for advice and info because the lack thereof. New guys who suddenly jump to every situation to apparently give advice to newcomers who really needs advice, where most of the advice they give, mostly limited is to something they picked up in some or other tread. This normally leads to some confusion by the time and Moderator or real expert gets the chance to help. I also see a lot of guys trying to sound clever where they take a question, Google the question and then apparently start giving advise.

I am afrikaans, so please forgive me if I struggle to keep this post structured...

A lot of awesome guys here work hard on thousands of post to get this site to the professional site that it is.

I really think guys should refrain themselves from trying to give information if they are not 100% sure about what they are talking about. Rather join in the conversation and ask questions and give the knowledgeable guys a fair chance to help out.

Everyone should know their shortcomings and where their field of expertise ends.

After all, this is people's lives and health we're talking about...

I agree completely, we actualy know shit unless we personally have been through it but still we should leave giving advice to the Pro's/Mods/Admin.

When you see any post with misinformation just point it out by replying with the proper advice.

When you see someone posting advice that can be considered dangerous then inform me and I'll look at it.


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Rule will be simple

If you haven't used it, injected, sucked, snorted, licked, dripped, drank or swallowed it, you have NO xp with it, so don't comment when people ask important questions.

Oupa wrote: Rule will be simple

If you haven't used it, injected, sucked, snorted, licked, dripped, drank or swallowed it, you have NO xp with it, so don't comment when people ask important questions.

Can't agree more. That was what I was trying to get to. Guys who asked simple 101 questions just a few weeks ago, shouldn't be going around jumping to every occasion giving advise on more complex stuff, although their intension might be good...

Maybe we should list all the compounds we've used in our signatures :lol:

Agreed that it's dangerous to pass on the first hit you get on google as advice - we're not exchanging muffin recipes, after all.

I haven't been active here in a while, I am still very new and have only done a single cycle.

I certainly see your point and agree with you there, however I also feel that a forum is there to share opinions and views as well as experience and knowledge.

I do not feel as if you need to have used a substance to answer certain questions on it and to be able to provide accurate and useful information. That being said I have seen where people think they understand something, yet they do not fully understand it and end up giving inaccurate information - despite having good intentions.

That is my view and opinion, as a member of this forum you need to be able to tell whether the information you are giving out is going to assist or not. People all have different views and opinions, side effects (and effects) differ from person to person. Sharing your experiences may not always be as helpful as sharing your experiences as well as experiences from others.

For example, when I was on 120mcg of Clen I hardly had any side effects (slight buzz for around 45 minutes). My friend was unable to go reach 120mcg due to shaking, heart rate increase, feeling too hot etc.

Providing just my experience or just my friends experience is not nearly as helpful as providing both together. Heck, go further and mention some other side effects which clen is known to cause. I personally see that as being even more helpful and informative.


EDIT: I have received help and useful information from members who have not used certain substances but have done a lot of research on them - Furk being one who jumps to mind straight away.

This is my opinion and view.

Hey Psy, it's been a while.

Maybe the topic is a bit dramatic and harsh, but I still stick to the content. I believe everyone's intentions are good, and I fully agree with you that discussions must take place for guys like us to learn and to help others later on.

My concern isn't helping out here and there with the basic stuff. It's when it comes to the more complex stuff where I believe guys should talk out of experience. After all, we are not exchanging fishing stories, we give advice which can have a serious effect on someone's health. People coming to this forum, comes exactly for that reason, that they want experienced help. If they wanted a Google answer, they wouldn't have come here.

The main thing is, when giving advice, one should know where your field of expertise ends. When you reach that point, then rather join in the conversation like you mentioned and give the guy asking for advise, a fair chance to get the expert advice.

By the way... You haven't joint the forum just three weeks ago asking basic questions and the suddenly started giving advise. You've been through many a conversation and discussions and learned a lot before you chip in with help. No prob bud, you always give solid advice. I myself have picked up quite a few things in conversations you were involved with.

OPTRON wrote: Hey Psy, it's been a while.

Maybe the topic is a bit dramatic and harsh, but I still stick to the content. I believe everyone's intentions are good, and I fully agree with you that discussions must take place for guys like us to learn and to help others later on.

My concern isn't helping out here and there with the basic stuff. It's when it comes to the more complex stuff where I believe guys should talk out of experience. After all, we are not exchanging fishing stories, we give advice which can have a serious effect on someone's health. People coming to this forum, comes exactly for that reason, that they want experienced help. If they wanted a Google answer, they wouldn't have come here.

The main thing is, when giving advice, one should know where your field of expertise ends. When you reach that point, then rather join in the conversation like you mentioned and give the guy asking for advise, a fair chance to get the expert advice.

Yes, I agree completely. The part in bold is what I was really trying to get across in my post.

I have seen this happen before on various forums, unfortunately I do not think it is something you can stop. Although that is why there is a report button, moderators and other forum members to jump in and correct the inaccurate / potentially dangerous information. As a member on this forum, or any other for that matter, it would probably be in your best interest to wait for a few replies - even if all of those replies are just other members agreeing / confirming what others have said while maybe adding in a bit more info.

OPTRON wrote: By the way... You haven't joint the forum just three weeks ago asking basic questions and the suddenly started giving advise.

Exactly.

Hi optron. Why don't you mention the person/s name/s that you talking about. It's clear that you have picked up on something that others have missed.

There's a lot of very experienced guys here who the newcomers look up too and appreciate the advice given. I'm sure they can help or judge whether the person/s was in the wrong.

Rules on the site include. Don't give out the wrong advice or advice you not sure about. If you saying the the advice was wrong. I'm sure the admin would have stepped in and reprimanded the individual/s.

Eidolon wrote: Maybe we should list all the compounds we've used in our signatures :lol:.

lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

BEN3 wrote: Hi optron. Why don't you mention the person/s name/s that you talking about. It's clear that you have picked up on something that others have missed.

There's a lot of very experienced guys here who the newcomers look up too and appreciate the advice given. I'm sure they can help or judge whether the person/s was in the wrong.

Rules on the site include. Don't give out the wrong advice or advice you not sure about. If you saying the the advice was wrong. I'm sure the admin would have stepped in and reprimanded the individual/s.

@BEN3: Wear the shoe if it fits...!!! But I wasn't referring to anyone spesific.

Last I checked the site has a very active admin.

BEN3 wrote: Last I checked the site has a very active admin.

Indeed, the mods and I will point out a bullshitter the moment we see someone talking nonsense and I agree that it's ok to confront someone if you don't agree with his reply.

I hear you completely Optron.
Long-time reader here, very rare poster.

I personally find the forum's "boarder" ratings very useful. Info and advice posted by a fresh boarder is taken with a large dose of salt. The salt dosage decreases with your seniority using the logic that clueless hacks won't bother to hang around on here all that long.

If it comes from a Mod or more I consider it gospel.