Synthol... Good or Bad?

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21 Jun 2016 12:14 #200738 by PraetorXII
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Hope all is going well members.

Just wanted to hear your guys opinion on using synthol?

Myself not to keen on the looks of it, but what about using it on calves?

Couldnt find anything on search function that is serious on use?

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21 Jun 2016 14:06 #200749 by OPTRON
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I cant imagine anybody hating his calves that much...

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21 Jun 2016 14:07 #200750 by OPTRON
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Have you ever seen a Racing Horse with huge calves.... :silly:

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21 Jun 2016 14:52 #200753 by 00pump
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I personally don't agree with it, but there is countless things people wouldn't agree with what I do / or have done.. The big thing with these spot oils is that once you get older and you slack down on training you going to look VERY weird with these bulges on certain parts of the body. If you a competitive bodybuilder and you need it for specific things, then maybe it's a different story.

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21 Jun 2016 15:01 #200754 by PraetorXII
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Yes wouldnt recommend for athletes thats just pointless its for cosmetics, Im glad you answered 00Pump how does bodybuilders use it or what would you say is the real requirement or threshold to use it?

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21 Jun 2016 15:54 - 21 Jun 2016 15:55 #200757 by PraetorXII
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Synthol
Origins And Meteoric RiseThe genesis of Synthol was an Italian steroid called Esiclene that was quite popular in the 1980's. For those unfamiliar with Esiclene, it was not used for lasting mass gains but instead immediately before a contest as a quick fix for visually weak body parts. Acting primarily as a muscle inflammatory agent, competitors injected it directly into the calves, arms, or shoulders for a bit of extra size and fullness in whichever of these smaller muscle groups were lagging. The effect was fleeting, but the drug served its purpose. In the early 90's, a German named Chris Clark began to tinker with the idea of an injectable substance that would yield more lasting gains in size. He came up with a formulation initially named Synthol, which he later learned was already a registered and trademarked pharmaceutical name. Clark quickly renamed his product Pump N' Pose, but the first name stuck. Now, the word Synthol is as much a part of the hardcore bodybuilding lexicon as Dianabol or Deca. Clark hit upon a gold mine, as there were thousands of steroid-using bodybuilders who were dissatisfied with the size of their arms, delts, and calves. Let's face it, few have the genetics to build an upper arm of twenty inches or more in lean condition, even with a boatload of anabolics and the most brutal training regimens imaginable.

One of its first users was a German strongman who billed himself as having "the world's largest arms" at 27 inches. Now, though the effect is quite obvious, as the Synthol-enhanced muscles take on shapes never found on any actual human being, you can go to any contest or large fitness expo and see several men who have injected enough oil into their bi's and tri's to satisfy their most extreme desires. Gains of two inches or more in the arms alone are quite commonplace. Synthol is also commonly used in the side delts and calves, as was Esiclene. Ironically, it is available legally, since the $400 bottles are labeled as posing oil. You sure could buy a lot of baby oil with 400 smackeroos! Despite the high price tag, its makers have found it difficult at times to keep up the worldwide demand from bodybuilders.

What Is Synthol?Synthol is composed of 85% medium-chain triglyceride oils (a fatty acid), 7.5% lidocaine (painkiller), and 7.5 5 benzyl alcohol. The preparation is injected deep into the muscle where it is encapsulated between the fascicles (bundles of muscle fibers) . With repeated injections, a larger volume of oil builds up inside the muscle, expanding its size like a balloon filling up with air. About 30% of what is injected is metabolized by the body. The other 70% remains lodged in the muscle where it breaks down very slowly over three to five years. There seems to be some issue of debate among bodybuilders as to whether or not Synthol actually lasts this long, and some believe it is even longer. Chris Clark, its inventor, is convinced that it somehow leads to permanent muscle growth in the effected areas, though even he is unsure of the mechanisms that would make this possible. Synthol users report amazing pumps while training, though this could be a result of the extra pressure of the accumulated oil.

Risks Of Synthol UseAlthough Mr. Clark claims Synthol is completely safe to use, he also made a point in Greg Zulak's "Uncensored" several issues ago that he is not legally responsible for bodybuilders using it for anything other than a posing oil. Of course, injecting any amount of fatty-acid material intramuscularly can be perilous. This is complicated by the fact that scant few bodybuilders have any medical training. Without knowing the location of major nerves, it's easy to hit one by accident and cause permanent paralysis of muscle fibers in the area. With an injection of any type, abscess infections at the injection site are always a possibility. Often abscesses (extremely painful build-ups of infected tissue) require surgery to remove, not unlike a tumor. You haven't heard the worst yet. Should you inject into a vein or artery by mistake (avoided by drawing back on the syringe to make sure there is no blood, a simple precaution many folks are too squeamish to take) the fatty acids could be transported to the lungs, causing a pulmonary embolism, the heart, causing a heart attack, or perhaps even into the brain, leading to a cardioembolic stroke. All three cases are potentially fatal.

Allegedly, IFBB pro Milos Sarcev had a scare recently when supposedly, some of the Synthol in his arms traveled to his heart. This sounds like an enormous amount of risk simply for the benefit of inflated arms and calves, but bodybuilders are not normal people. To some, it's worth the risk of death to finally have 21-inch bazookas just like the big genetic freaks they idolize. To date, there have been no publicized deaths related to Synthol or any of its several knock-offs currently available. Of course, this is a fairly new product that has only skyrocketed in use over the past two years. Ultimately, Synthol users are adults who are responsible for their own health and safety and are free to make the choice themselves.

Ethical Issues Of Calf Implants And SyntholNow we come to the nagging question, is all of this cheating? Cheating is a difficult word to define in a sport where a large amount of the participants do not consider it an unfair advantage to inject synthetic hormones designed to increase muscle size and strength. To a point I have to agree with them. Though it gives many bodybuilders an "unfair advantage" over natural competitors, there are at least ten major organizations that promote drug-tested events where steroids are very much considered cheating and those who test positive are disqualified and/or stripped of their titles. In non-tested contests, anyone is free to take whatever drugs they choose. Calf implants would have to be classified as cheating in any competition, since judges are supposed to be comparing physiques composed of muscle, not implanted hunks of silicone that required no effort to attain. For recreational bodybuilders, calf implants are simply a matter of personal choice. It's really no different from a woman getting breast implants to feel a little better about her appearance. Synthol, though, smacks of cheating any way you look at it. It's not fair to stand up there with a 22-inch arm in a lineup when up to four inches of it are injected oil. Though it may be unfair that some are more genetically gifted, it's even less fair to blow up a weak bodypart with oily injections and pass it off as a product of your own hard work. Steroids may be of huge assistance, but you still need to do the work, the training and eating. Synthol is a sham because these muscles aren't outstanding due to anything more than your having the money to buy the product and the ability to endure the painful injections.

Of course, the moral high ground here would be to do your absolute best with whatever God gave you. Steroids, implants, and oils can all make your body inflate to dimensions you never dreamed of - but do you really own that body? In the cases of steroids and possibly Synthol, you eventually give all that muscle back when you stop using it. You might be able to fool yourself into thinking you own the incredible image staring back at you from the gym mirror. You might be able to fool friends, fans and bystanders. In the end, though, you can't fool Mother Nature. She's one smart b____h.

Your take of it guys?


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www.howtodoinjections.com/SEOGUIDE/calves.html

www.elitefitness.com/forum/weight-traini...p-calves-250230.html

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21 Jun 2016 16:01 #200758 by PraetorXII
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OPTRON wrote: Have you ever seen a Racing Horse with huge calves.... :silly:


hahaha any trainer who does this is a real mampara, I personally will Never do this to my thourougbreds, besides a horses digestive system is something to really be jealous of...

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22 Jun 2016 21:05 #200824 by Cyclo
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Personally, I think anyone that even considers synthol is a fucking moron. I mean using AAS's already puts a huge strain on the body. But that at least achieves something.

But synthol???

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22 Jun 2016 21:46 #200828 by PraetorXII
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Cyclo wrote: Personally, I think anyone that even considers synthol is a fucking moron. I mean using AAS's already puts a huge strain on the body. But that at least achieves something.

But synthol???


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22 Jun 2016 22:00 #200831 by Hormonas
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Cyclo wrote: Personally, I think anyone that even considers synthol is a fucking moron. I mean using AAS's already puts a huge strain on the body. But that at least achieves something.

But synthol???


Synthol does achieve something. It's not for everyone and very few people agree with it but it can be used effectively in bodybuilding when used responsibly. Many pros use it. I hear your point though! :) it seems a bit silly but since (up on stage) all that matters is how your muscles look, you can see why someone would want to use it for that extra advantage.


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22 Jun 2016 22:18 #200833 by PraetorXII
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I've seen a local oak that you can clearly see this dude did synthol in his arms and it looks fucking bad bad bad, he probably injected himself or didnt know shit on how to do it. Either way its not to be taken lightly.

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22 Jun 2016 22:23 #200834 by Hormonas
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PraetorXII wrote: I've seen a local oak that you can clearly see this dude did synthol in his arms and it looks fucking bad bad bad, he probably injected himself or didnt know shit on how to do it. Either way its not to be taken lightly.


The key to using it is (apparently) to inject really deep into the muscle to avoid the lumps, followed by a proper massage of the muscle to spread the oil a bit. I've seen a few guys with the lumps and out of proportion muscle bellies, not a good look when used badly!


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22 Jun 2016 22:31 #200836 by PraetorXII
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Hormonas wrote:

PraetorXII wrote: I've seen a local oak that you can clearly see this dude did synthol in his arms and it looks fucking bad bad bad, he probably injected himself or didnt know shit on how to do it. Either way its not to be taken lightly.


The key to using it is (apparently) to inject really deep into the muscle to avoid the lumps, followed by a proper massage of the muscle to spread the oil a bit. I've seen a few guys with the lumps and out of proportion muscle bellies, not a good look when used badly!


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It Would be better to get a Doc to show you how to do it? I pressume?

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22 Jun 2016 22:37 #200838 by Hormonas
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PraetorXII wrote: It would be better to get a Doc to show you how to do it? I pressume?


You would get asked a few too many questions by the doc and not many are too knowledgable on IM injections in obscure areas like the tricep heads or bicep heads etc. You can use YouTube videos and/or site injection websites that show you the correct injection sites.



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23 Jun 2016 14:37 - 23 Jun 2016 14:38 #200878 by Oupa
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The new quickfix for youngsters :blink:

Praetor at this moment, you dont know much about steroids, so i would suggest you stay clear of synthol.
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23 Jun 2016 15:29 - 23 Jun 2016 15:29 #200879 by PraetorXII
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Oupa wrote: The new quickfix for youngsters :blink:

Praetor at this moment, you dont know much about steroids, so i would suggest you stay clear of synthol.


Nee ek vrae net vrae en kyk wat is almal se opinies Oupa. Debate is gesond?

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23 Jun 2016 16:21 #200880 by Oupa
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100%, no prob

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23 Jun 2016 17:13 #200884 by PraetorXII
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"My thoughts on synthol. Not a big fan. As far as safety that depends on risk of
infection, other than that it is probably safe. As far as way it looks, it tends to give a
distorted unnatural look. As a judge I look for symmety, muscularity, conditioning, and
stage presence. If one part stands out then that is not a good thing, means they are
unbalanced. Anyway I guess it comes down to if I can tell someone is using synthol
they will get judges down because it takes from their asthetic look. If someone uses
synthol and I can't tell then they did a good job and it helped. Lol. But overall not a
fan cause it seems like you can always spot a synthol user. To each his own but I
prefer a more asthetic balanced look."

Shiloe Steinmetz, NPC Mr.Ohio

"I'm not aware of anyone who uses oil at my local gym, however I'm sure that's not the
same elsewhere. So far as the National and Pro ranks, it seems a universal belief
that everyone has at least tried it. I consider it a cheat, but from an aesthetic
viewpoint a cheat is not necessarily a negative.


Used appropriately (is that an oxymoron?), I believe synthol can be a good thing.
Unfortunately, the bodybuilding press or various bb forums normally highlight the
"efforts" of those who have clearly gone overboard."

Curt James
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nattyornot.com/the-abuse-of-synthol-in-bodybuilding/ <<< this is a good one

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