Sust4fifty, Cyp200, DBol cycle

Slaan jy die spyker op sy kop...I was thinking just now about doing the cyp 1ml m/f and s450 0.2ml m/w/f. I'll drop the c200 for future use.

Dbol is better to take 40mg progressively throughout the day right every 4 or 6 hours pop 10mg to achieve a uniform blood concentration?

PraetorivsXII wrote: not really worried about pip but I'll have to see how my body reacts and how much pain I can take from s450.

My first ever injectable cycle was with test combo 450 and my last cycle, honestly the first injection on each cheek is the worst but if it's done right and if you can get someone to inject you in the but and they know where the sweet spot is,the pain is hardly noticeable..my highest dose was 600mg of test in one injection,I knew it was there but not painful at all..but everyone's different hey

Praet I would not dose the Sust450 lower than 0.5ml m/w/f. Jy is n Groot seun stamp 1ml m/w/f. Just make sure that you always know the longest and Shortest ester in your combo so you can adjust injection frequency to optimise blood hormone concentration. The longest ester= 3x half life that is your waiting time till PCT. You can not pin Sust til a day or a few before PCT. With Sust your waiting time till PCT is 54 days after last injection bridge that gap from last pin to PCT with Winstrol or so...

Are you advising 1350mg test per week for this guy

Um maybe im confused here but why dont you just do cyp at 2-3ml a week?

Oupa wrote: Are you advising 1350mg test per week for this guy

Me? Nope, 1ml in total per week, based on his initial aim of 325ml E5D. The suggested "cycle" I posted was just to illustrate how to match up the 3 products.

Easiest would be to just run the cyp, of course, and keep the sust for another day.

O.5mlx3

But even at 1mlx3 the actual amount of test wil be less because a lot of that is not testosterone but ester weight

Eish :silly: I'd rather stick to base plan for cyp and hit 0.5ml m/w/f of s450 and see what happends, if the prop starts working immediately I'll probably know and then also know the hybrid dose is not under? I have done 1000mg a week before, pip was painfull, used oraltecs cyp and sust, the stuff was most def underdosed cause nothing happend

Eidolon wrote:

Oupa wrote: Are you advising 1350mg test per week for this guy

Me? Nope, 1ml in total per week, based on his initial aim of 325ml E5D. The suggested "cycle" I posted was just to illustrate how to match up the 3 products.

Easiest would be to just run the cyp, of course, and keep the sust for another day.

Not u, rooi bul

@Furk - Post bietjie jou version van PPL vir maksimale krag en spier massa oefeninge asb sal like om te sien, meer gefokus op Leggs, 3dae sal miskien beter wees want dan kan en L repeat.

Oupa wrote:
Not u, rooi bul

Raait. Lees nou eers sy 1mlx3 :blink:

Raaait so die steroids wat julle spuit is suiwer met geen esters wat gewig op neem nie... :blink: :silly: :blink:

TNE bra. Al die pad :lol:

Seriously though- all the sample cycles and the articles here and around the web are based on mg of ester plus hormone. That's how all the UGLs and pharma gear is labelled too. You could, of course, calculate things based on a hormone weight, if you wanted to. But the bottom line is, you still wouldn't be pinning 3x1ml of sust 450, because it would be too much actual test for a relative novice cycle.

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Raaait so die steroids wat julle spuit is suiwer met geen esters wat gewig op neem nie... :blink: :silly: :blink:

Kak redenasie om dit so te prober regverdig.

PraetorivsXII wrote: @Furk - Post bietjie jou version van PPL vir maksimale krag en spier massa oefeninge asb sal like om te sien, meer gefokus op Leggs, 3dae sal miskien beter wees want dan kan en L repeat.

Dude ek't vir die eerste deel van die jaar ń PPL woes verander dat ek my deadlift en squat op kry. So di's snaaks dat jy bene noem, want di's presies wat die program goed reg gekry het. Ek volg op met die program nou net.

Ek verstaan waar jy vandaan kom met daai Eid... I just didn't think of him as a novice as he mentioned being on a few cycles before. But I do agree that his lack of knowledge puts him smack in the middle of the novice class. Lack of knowledge of compounds would make even 900mg of Test too much for him if sides started surfacing.

Sorry did not think that one through properly and replied to quickly my apologies to you and Oupa. Also to Praetorian for potentially endangering your life with that reckless post.

I should have said that is how I would run the Sust 450 but obviously with ancillary coumpounds

PraetorivsXII wrote: @Furk - Post bietjie jou version van PPL vir maksimale krag en spier massa oefeninge asb sal like om te sien, meer gefokus op Leggs, 3dae sal miskien beter wees want dan kan en L repeat.

Praetorivs, ek dink ons moet ń training regime thread oop maak :lol:

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Also to Praetorian for potentially endangering your life with that reckless post.

I should have said that is how I would run the Sust 450 but obviously with ancillary coumpounds

Are you suggesting I should leave s450 out completely?

Furk wrote:

PraetorivsXII wrote: @Furk - Post bietjie jou version van PPL vir maksimale krag en spier massa oefeninge asb sal like om te sien, meer gefokus op Leggs, 3dae sal miskien beter wees want dan kan en L repeat.

Praetorivs, ek dink ons moet ń training regime thread oop maak :lol:

Ek dink jyt n goeie plan daar beet maar almal het altyd hulle idees, dalk moet ons nie speel nie en dadelik groot gan lol :woohoo:

@Furk Hoeveel minute min en maks het jy gerus tussen sets?

@Praet, vir al die powerlifting movements het ek my tyd gevat, nooit haastig nie. Deadlift en squat rus jy so lank jy nodig het. Want jy stoot nie dieselfde gewig op daai 2, week na week nie. Mis vit PRs elke sessie. Ek't konstant myself gedruk. Ek't ook op deadlift en squat dae meer voor die sessie geëet.

Vir die res het ek nie bekommer oor te vinnig die volgende set begin nie. Ek time nooit my lifts nie, maar vir die gewone bodybuilding styl workout oefeninge, sal ek nooit twyfel om die volgende set te begin selfs hardloop my hard en klop my pols vinnig. Ek't ook van die kleiner bewegings ge superset om my hadklop vinnig te hou en tyd te spaar.

Vir squats, geen sissy parallel stop nie, ek gaan altyd laer as dit (maar ek verstaan nie almal kan nie, van ń flexibility oogpunt). Range of motion vir bench press and OHP is beperk so ń mens kan dit nie verkeerd kry nie. Die gesê, het ek OHP met dumbells gedoen, want daai ekstra ROM soek so bietjie meer tricep moeite en my tris is swak.

Hoop dit help tjom, jammer dat ek moes ń storie skryf en nie ń direkte antwoord gee nie.

Dankie jyt net my oogpunt weer reg bewys oor hoe ek voel oor oefenige doen.

Update on cylce

Jabbed Cyp as normal m/f 1ml and s450 on w 1ml with 40mg Dbol ED - results, weight been holding steady at 113kg where it use to fluctuate between 107 to 111kg al lot. Can feel my skin is feeling a bit more oily but no acne, strength has gone up but nothing major, muscles get pumped faster and looks good too, everybody can see something is going on. DBol seem to have no effect when taken 10mg every 6 hours, so what I did is 10mg early, 20mg before gym and 10mg about 2 hours after gym, thinking about dosing 30mg before gym....

No pip whatsoever but it think a steady hand is to thank...

So weights been holding steady at 115kg, made some changes to exercise program to focus more on lagging parts, like the idea of splitting quads and hamstrings on separate days. Finding it a bit difficult to do cardio after weights will have to make more time available. 50mg of Dbol makes me a bit uncomfortable and stiff soos n honeymoon wiel, will stay on 40 ED. Recovery is getting faster and strength has gone up quite good can press 160kg with one leg the proper way.

Praetorivs how you finding the Sust450. Is it good quality?

Planning my next cycle and the Sust450 looks appealing as part of my stack, haha always been fond of sust.

You say there's no pain from it but surely there would be slight pip because of the decanoate ester in the sust or the high concentration. I was told a while back that sust can hurt for a little because of the slow dissolving decanoate ester. Lol maybe I was lied to back then.

Lemme know what you think of the 450 if you feel that it's good quality or if you are happy with it. I can't decide whether to go for the axio sustaplex 325 or thus syntrop 450.

Thanks