1st Cycle Progress - some sides!

Hey guys

Im in my 7th week on the below cycle. as its my 1st cycle and want to see how my body reacts:

- Week 1-12 - Testoviron 500mg per week (250mg 2x per week)
- Week 10-16 - Winstrol 60mg ED
- Week 17-20 - PCT 1 as per this site (Clomid and Nolva)
- Arimidex .5mg EOD
- HCG in cycle started from week 5 @ 500iu per week (250ui 2x per week)

My nuts have shrunk alot(i knew this would happen) - and I constantly have to check if they are still there...

My question is - should I be concerned, and is there anything I can/should do?

As for that, the cycle is awesome with only oily skin now and then

Thank you again for all the help!

Well increase your hCG

Thx Pump

What dosage do you recommend?

I don't have a exact number, sometimes I have to shoot a 1000iu every 2nd day for 3 days, that's when i'm quite badly shut down, sometimes after that I wont need to shoot the hCG for a few weeks again.. I'm into hCG during cycle in one breath but in another I don't know how safe it really is. Here is something to read too, www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19575391 ... I find that you become desensitized to it's effects

Test your hCG with a home pregnancy test to see that it's still active. I'm assuming you've maintained cold chain etc etc.

I cannot see why you should shutdown so quickly with a relatively mild cycle while taking hCG (or it could be you're VERY prone to shutdown which raises other concerns w.r.t. recovery post PCT).

The gurus can perhaps also comment about adding the Winnies, if you are indeed shut down from the test it may be prudent to not add further stress on the HPTA and to not do the Winnies(but I stand corrected)

There must be something wrong with your HCG if 500IU a week is not preventing ball shrinkage.

Pump that study was done in vitro and no doses relative to human use is mentioned so one can't really draw any conclusions from that. This is a very interesting topic and there is much debate about HCG dosing.

My belief is that the only time one might need more than 500IU HCG per dose is if one already has significant leydig cell desensitisation or primary hypogonadism, or if you have been on cycle a very long time and your leydig cells (testosterone producing cells) have atrophied from lack of stimulation. Higher doses of HCG also adversely effect your intra testicular estrogen:androgen ratio which raises the risk of gyno.

Dr Crisler has a therapeutic limit of 350IU HCG per dose due to the unfavourable increase in leydig cell desensitisation and aromatase at higher doses.

Do NOT shake your HCG. Shaking can destroy/damage this peptide molecule.

Thx guys for all the feedback!

I will stay on the 500UI per week, and see if I can get hold of some "fresh" HCG over the weekend. Maybe something is wrong with the current HCG I have, although its pharmaceutical brand. Not sure if im allowed to mention the label? The expiry date is end Feb 2016, so I assume she shelf life could have been compromised by shaking or other aspects as you mentioned

You can mention the label no problem. You can even post a photo. but you can't discuss price or source.