Advice on a beginner cycleo

Hi Guys

I would like to ask a few questions to educate myself further. I have searched quite a bit so if I have missed the info I apologize in advance.
My Weight- 71kg
My Height- 1.70m
About 10% body fat

My goal is lean mass.
I am thinking of a cycle of:

Turinabol
Oral Primobolan
Anavar
Proviron

I intend to use the 70 day Primobolan/Proviron Beginner cycle as a base. Can you suggest the mg and times on the Turinabol that will kickstart the mass slightly? Secondly, does it make sense to take Anavar with the other's listed? Will the gain of Turinabol not clash with the cutting of Anavar? Would I phase out Turinabol and phase in Anavar? If so what are the mg and times suggested for that too?

Lastly, why do the PCT's all start with Clomid? Sorry if this is a stupid question, but all the info I see suggests that Tamoxifen is more effective? So what is the reason for the first few days of Clomid?

Thanks in advance for your time

That's is 4 x DHT oral steroid's in one stack. kak idea, rethink.

Thanks for that it is very much appreciated.

Ok I am leaning towards just using Turinabol and Anavar.

Will the gain of Turinabol not clash with the cutting of Anavar? Would I phase out Turinabol and phase in Anavar or rather take together in an amount curve low-high-low for the full 6 weeks?

Why is clomid used for the first few days if tamoxifen is considered just as good?

Steroids clashing? Dude lol, you have the wrong idea how these things work.

You need to do a lot more research bro

Read Clomid.... then Read Nolvadex... then ask

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/drug...files/anti-estrogens

OP you want to mix 4 orals at once?

Read the content on this site bud, the articles and cycle plans are really good, keep the advanced stuff for later.

The liver damage from this cycle would be immense and the gains wouldn't be held.

Rather run test enanthate or cypionate at 250/500mg a week preferrably two jabs a week (monday/friday).
Optionally, you can kickstart the cycle with an oral like dianabol, anadrol preferrably though as it does not aromatise for 4-6weeks - no longer.
For this cycle you should be running pct number 1 from the guide on the site.

This cycle could easily put you up 15kilos with a decent diet and consistent and hard training - and you'll actually keep majority of your gains.

I realise I have a lot to learn. Thats ok though. I would rather be told off for silly questions than begging for advice after an uneducated cycle. So thanks for that. Keep em coming.
I have read a LOT from this site and still going. The more you learn, the more you realise how much more there is to know.

Thanks Ryandk for that.
I think I am going to keep it very basic for my first time. I am just going to try out the Oral Primobolan and Proviron. I would like to see how my body handles starting with the light stuff. Also I have a contract abroad just before xmas so dont really want to take injectables through an airport. Not to mention even though I have spent most of the past few days on this site, I would rather keep reading up on here before I consider that step.

I just want to point out that in the 'beginners lean mass cycle' pdf download it says that you need
7 x anavar (20 mg x 50)
4 x anavar (20 mg x 50)
when it is a Primo and Proviron course. I think its an error because it is correct in the articles section.

Also, the dosage of Primobolan at 20 mg a tablet works out to 291 Tablets for the 70 day cycle. At 20mg x 50 from LP thats 6 bottles not 7?

Joscar wrote:
I just want to point out that in the 'beginners lean mass cycle' pdf download it says that you need
7 x anavar (20 mg x 50)
4 x anavar (20 mg x 50)
when it is a Primo and Proviron course. I think its an error because it is correct in the articles section.

Also, the dosage of Primobolan at 20 mg a tablet works out to 291 Tablets for the 70 day cycle. At 20mg x 50 from LP thats 6 bottles not 7?

Yes thank you, its a error on the page. You passed the test

If they catch you with vials of liquid at the airport how are you going to explain that? Even if you take the labels off it's suspect. Don't take gear abroad, especially if you don't know the ropes at the airport.

Thanks Oupa

No ways Furk. Would not even consider it. These African aiports love looking whats in my bag lol. Middle eastern airports must have a picture of me up for thier prime example of a person to interogate. I get stopped by EVERY guard every time I go there lol.
Jokes aside its not worth risking it. I would be too scared to put whiskey in a shampoo bottle for offhore lol!

I will get my gear together and post a new thread and document my whole journey from start to finish.

I've put my PCT into Centrum bottles, in my hold-luggage of course. Even my creatine that looks like cocaine never gets attention. Whiskey in shampoo bottles lol never considered that!