Dbol only cycle at 19

I weigh 68KG in the morning before eating, nude and after going to the loo. I am 1.86M and done growing. I've been working (on and off) for 3 years. But have been more active in the past 6 months. I'm unsure about my BF% but it is very low. I'm starting my Dbol only cycle on this coming friday (hopefully)

I eat a lot and drink whey + take creatine.
Ill be taking 30mg a day for 4 weeks and then 20mg for a further 5 weeks (might shorten it?) And then for PCT ill take clomid 50mg for 5 days followed by a 5 day break and then for another 5 days.


So my question: I've read a lot about people doing Dbol only, and 75% say they get huge gains and then lose it due to pissing it out after all the water retention. This worries me. I don't want to bulk up and swell up like some pig and then instantly deflate and everyones like wtf. and end up exactly where i was.
How much (ROUGHLY) of my gains would i be able to keep? Im planning on eating like crazy with a good diet, and staying on my whey + creatine throughout it all, not drinking or smoking (im anyway not a smoker and only have a few beers at parties) and working out at least 5 (but normally 6) days a week.
As i said, im just worried i swell up and then instantly deflate just to end up exactly where i started.
Thank you in advance.

Oh yeah, and I know I very well might have just thrown myself into a fire, but im still curious.

spiritzz wrote:

How much (ROUGHLY) of my gains would i be able to keep?

Roughly speaking, Rough estimate, none.

Spiritzz, I'm going to lay some huge truth on you right now, so take a seat.





You ready? Okay I think you're ready.





You should have considered this before swallowing your first pill. Should maybe have taken one step further and researched it on your own. This stuff happens way too often...

As i said, i havent started. I would be starting this coming friday unless i get some good advice.

Might i add that id be happy with just keeping MORE gains that i would when doing it all natural. I roughly gain about 0.7KG - 1.1KG per month naturally

spiritzz wrote: I roughly gain about 0.7KG - 1.1KG per month naturally

STAY NATURAL!!!

A dianabol only cycle will only screw those awesome gains up.

Do you suggest I maybe add something to it? Or is staying full on natural really the best move? I'm really keen to try it out

spiritzz wrote: As i said, i havent started. I would be starting this coming friday unless i get some good advice.

My bad. Stay natty, if those numbers are real a D-bol cycle will hinder you in the long run.

And also, the biggest thing, your 19 FFS. Still a long way you can go without the juice.

Spiritzz, I doubt you're going to get much more input about this. There is just too much wrong with your plan and post to warrant a legitimate response.

I'll break it down in a nutshell so the experienced guys don't need to waste their time.

You're too young. Your planned Dbol only cycle is a terrible idea. You have no clue what a proper PCT looks like. Telling us you "eat a lot" is useless. Do you know what macros are or count calories? You've clearly done no research.

Bottom line: you wanted input - don't do it - you'll achieve nothing and risk damage to your body.

Read, train, eat and sleep. When you've done some research and understand the basics come back and ask specific questions based on a more knowledgeable approach.

Iron K.

Spiritzz, don't listen to the others, try this cycle:

Year 1 - 6: Oats (100000mg), Whey (30000mg), 1 banana, peanut butter (50000mg) ED, 7am
Year 1 - 6: Chicken & rice (1 cup cooked basmati) ED, 10am, 16:00
Year 1 - 6: Lean beef mince & white potato (1 large) ED, 13:00, 20:00
Year 1 - 6: Whey (30000mg) on training days, post workout

PCT: remember to breathe daily, and take at least 2 dumps ED (sometimes 3)

You should be able to put on 5kg in the first 12 weeks on this cycle, and continue to grow for the remainder of the 6 years

Schmidt wrote: Spiritzz, don't listen to the others, try this cycle:

Year 1 - 6: Oats (100000mg), Whey (30000mg), 1 banana, peanut butter (50000mg) ED, 7am
Year 1 - 6: Chicken & rice (1 cup cooked basmati) ED, 10am, 16:00
Year 1 - 6: Lean beef mince & white potato (1 large) ED, 13:00, 20:00
Year 1 - 6: Whey (30000mg) on training days, post workout

PCT: remember to breathe daily, and take at least 2 dumps ED (sometimes 3)

You should be able to put on 5kg in the first 12 weeks on this cycle, and continue to grow for the remainder of the 6 years

One of the best cycles I have seen.
Tried, true and trusted, with little to no sides (save for your wallet, but that is life).

spiritzz wrote: Might i add that id be happy with just keeping MORE gains that i would when doing it all natural. I roughly gain about 0.7KG - 1.1KG per month naturally

1KG a month?? Why the fuck would you want to touch gear?
You'll be an 80KG ripped monster in a year, in two years, heck you'd probably be the biggest natty on earth - just keep doing what you're doing.

Right, so seeing that you're going to it anyway, here's what's going to happen:

You're going to swell up like a balloon and be super strong.
When you're finished, you're going to lose all your mad gainz and probably be shut down. You're going to feel weak, depressed, most likely quit gym.
Your PCT is probably going to do more harm than good.
Now you're 19 with liver damage and low test. The highlight of your twenties will most likely be cosmetic surgery to correct gyno.

Still sound like a good idea?

I get it, you're 19 and probably fairly skinny (according to your height and weight, you're probably on about 12% BF) and your friends are bigger than you. Here's the thing that you don't realise now, YOU'RE SKINNY! You literally have a blank canvas to grow an exceptional physique on instead of having to cut down a gut. You're in your prime, if you really are eating right and hitting the gym hard, you're going to grow like a monster in the next 3 years.

You should be hitting in the region of about 2500 calories a day to maintain your current physique. So if you add another 500 cal on that a day, you're going to see results.

You should be getting about 150-224 grams of protein a day (600-900 calories) and fill the rest in with good clean carbs and fats. Stay away from booz as much as you can (I know you're 19) but this is a gains killer.

Don't listen to that douchebag friend that is filling your head with these lies. Get the foundation right first, then in a few years if you feel you've hit a plato at 80KG and still at 12% we can talk gear.

Read through the dieting and steroid sections, there are clever folks on this site, but do your research first and they'll be happy to help.

l1qu1d wrote:

spiritzz wrote: Might i add that id be happy with just keeping MORE gains that i would when doing it all natural. I roughly gain about 0.7KG - 1.1KG per month naturally

Right, so seeing that you're going to it anyway, here's what's going to happen:

No response so I'm guessing he's probably started today.

Ok spiritzz, Please post a before photo and then one a week so that we can see your progress.

Please also include your weight gains, training regimen and the weights which will highlight your strength gains.

Then very importantly, and this is going to take a serious amount of discipline... please post your after photos during and after PCT.

It is still early days into your cycle so if possible, bloods now, when you finish and then after your "PCT".

You see this will be very useful for the next kid that wants to try something like this. Clearly advice from experienced guys mean absolutely nothing. Maybe if someone sees photos of someone fucking themselves up and the shit results thereof they may then realise we are being genuine when we caution against poorly designed cycles/cycling too young.

This will also help you later on in life because if you want to do something contrary to experienced advice you can reflect back on these photos to remind yourself what happened the last time you chose to not heed good advice.

Other than that, I wish you well in your cycle and eagerly await your progress reports.

What I want to know why is he starting the cycle on a Friday? :dry:

I'm only 18 now and was also close to starting a cycle but after intense thinking and consideration i decided not to start now but maybe later when I'm at least 23. This is a decision I'm glad i made. I know it sounds weird but try "pretending" ur on a cycle and u actually tend to make good progress... Some placebo effects

I started way to young. But let me tell you a shot of depo test and within a few minutes I was stronger, more confident, felt aggression, it was all in my head, I went up 10 to 15 percent in strength, and BECAUSE I thought it was working I started getting harder stronger and bigger. Stick to understanding the essentials first. Look at steroids as something for down the line, but get to understand yourself, your diet. . When you should carb when to cut down on them, go party with your friends live a life of a teenager.. or stop going out and dedicate your life to gym. But that means posting a diet that proves your actually know what you doing, post a cycle that is actually legit in gaining results, explain why you need to cycle, are you insecure or are you wanting to be the next up and coming Mr O. Do you even have the genetics to do that. Just stop being a know it all teen, and make sure you know what you doing. You either 100 percent in or your not.

@00pump, how young did you start? Seeing anything negative nowadays? How long have you been using gear for? Just intrigued