Primo&Anavar combo for a female

@enggirl wrote: hello guys, new to this.

im 30 years, female.
1.72m, 72kg, 20% bf

im thinking of going on of pgw primo 100mg/wk split into 2 doses and 15mg pgw var daily split into 3 doses of 5mg (to keep the test constant ) ive been on a 10wk cycle of ciccone var 15mg daily split into 3 doses morning aft and night. body handled it well no virilisation

good combo?

i want to lean down for competition and still built muscle, diet is very clean, 1950calories split into 7meals of 40% protein 40%carbs 20% fat

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Hi @enggirl: No need for bikini pics, you gave enough info.

How many cycles have you done?

Are you sensitive to virilisation side effects?

Personally I think 100mg Primo with 15mg Var is a bit heavy.

My wife currently use:
Primo @ 50mg per week
Female stack @ 1 x cap per day and work up to 2 am/pm.

I like this cycle for a female.

Otherwise if you prefer Primo&Var:
Start primo @ 50mg per week for a few week and see how you handle it and maybe work your way up from there. No need for anything more than 100mg per week.
Var: 15mg per day is way to much. 10mg MAX split am/pm.

Hope this help!!

Have a look at Female Stack, nice combination with Primo

OPTRON wrote: Hi @enggirl: No need for bikini pics, you gave enough info.

What a bag of fun you are.



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Haha, sorry bud. She is still welcome to post pics if she want to, I just didn't deem it necessary.

I've only done one cycle, no virilisation. But i suppose my var was probably underdosed.

Thank you very much for the info.

@enggirl wrote: I've only done one cycle, no virilisation. But i suppose my var was probably underdosed.

Thank you very much for the info.

Never measure steroids by side effects. 10mg Anavar is a safe dosage for woman. 100mg Primo a week for a woman will have you concerned by week 5 :dry:

Oupa wrote:

@enggirl wrote: I've only done one cycle, no virilisation. But i suppose my var was probably underdosed.

Thank you very much for the info.

Never measure steroids by side effects. 10mg Anavar is a safe dosage for woman. 100mg Primo a week for a woman will have you concerned by week 5 :dry:

Thank you for coming in on this topic Oupa
What do you mean by "safe" and what dosages would you suggest/recommend?

I mean on dosages for the primo, i was thinking of halving it to 50mg/week.
And doing an 8 week cycle. Any suggestions?

I am going to say it the way it is, so excuse me if i am blunt.

Safe dosage means you wont grow a mustache, beard or need to tweezer pick your nipple hair 3 times a week, or walk around with a ball bearing sized clitoris in your tights, training pants, bikini or underwear. 15mg Anavar is more than enough for a woman with your stats, unless your product is under dosed.

Virilisation doesn't happen overnight, so be very careful of the crap people tell you. Once you have the jawbone of a man, you CANT reverse the sides. If you loose your female voice, ITS GONE ! so dont be stupid and keep your femininity.

Your 30, 50mg primo a week is all you will ever need, once you add anavar to this, your mood swings will be a handful for your husband to handle, not to mention the crap you give your kids, if you have any. Thats not even mentioning your career that could turn out a complete fuckup with mood swings.

Have your diet dialed in, u can add a fat burner now and then, but DO NOT fiddle with estrogen suppression tactics, you will have a rebound guaranteed and will blow up like a sex doll.

If you dont compete, do a 20 week primo cycle @50mg per week. You only have to pin once a week.

Week 6 check back here and then we can start tweaking shit.

Thank for telling it like it is and not beating around the bush, is there any type of fat burner that you would recommend of at least certain compounds that i should be looking for that a good fat burner should contain?

And on having my diet dialed in do you mean that i should be altering my macros and caloric intake?

@enggirl wrote: And on having my diet dialed in do you mean that i should be altering my macros and caloric intake?

Thats the 1st rule yes. Diet , then comes training, supplements, and what ever you want to add - fatburner / steroid... that is your choice.

It seems to me you HAVE to lean out, and lean out fucking fast? Why is that?

Because i would like to meet my hammies, i have very good leg muscles and i lean down on the top half of my body very fast, the bottom part always lags behind.

Oupa, i train hard, 6 days a week, i dont waste my time using bad form and light weights always pushing myself to be stronger and better. And you must know how the muscles call you to un earth them.
Thats why i want to lean down.

@enggirl wrote: Oupa, i train hard, 6 days a week, i dont waste my time using bad form and light weights always pushing myself to be stronger and better. And you must know how the muscles call you to un earth them.
Thats why i want to lean down.

Befok

We can always tweak your diet. That is ultimately what leans you out anyway. You welcome to post it.

My diet is as follows:

1905kCal
Protein 40%
Carbs 40%
Fats 20%

i have a very physical job so my activity level is at least 1.55

1st meal
1 whole egg
6 egg whites

2nd meal
150gr chicken breast
40gr rice
100g zucchini (hate broccoli)

3rd meal
100gr chicken breast
20gr rice cakes
3gr peanut butter no sugar added

4th meal
150gr Chicken breast
40gr Rice
100gr zucchini

5th meal
150gr lean beef
40gr rice
100gr zucchini

6th meal (usually time this meal before a workout)
4 egg whites
2 whole eggs
40gr oats

7th meal before bed
6gr peanut butter
20gr rice cakes

so thats what im consuming throughout my day.

i dont do protein shakes as im not convinced about their efficacy and im allergic to soy.

i time my meals 2-3hours appart and i like a cheat meal at least once a week.

thanks for having a look at this for me.

im currently only on primo 50mg once a week.

@enggirl wrote: i dont do protein shakes as im not convinced about their efficacy and im allergic to soy.

Bwahaha, you don't need to be convinced of anything. The science is there. But that said, whey isn't 100% essential to your success. Just make sure you eat a high quality protein after your workout. Which you don't... In fact you don't get protein in at all after your workout.

Let me break down your options:
(Adjusting your calories accordingly)
1) Drink whey post workout, then no sooner than 30 min later eat a whole food meal containing predominately good protein.
2) Drink BCAAs immediately after workout, then at the next opportunity (but not too long after) eat a whole food meal containing predominately good protein.
3) Immediately after workout, eat a whole food meal containing predominately good protein.
4) Drink whole milk post workout, then at the next opportunity eat a whole food meal containing predominately good protein.

You have many meals in your day, I reckon it'll be pretty easy to donate and subtract a bit to come up with an ideal solution.

That's my take, not nit-picking the rest of your diet, but your eating solid whole foods. Hope it helps, @enggirl.

Ill take option 3 Furk.

Ill have a look at your recommendations and adjust my diet accordingly.

Just thought this would be an interesting read. dischem.co.za/article/20423-press-releas...protein-supplements-

Thank you for your great input.

Oupa would she not be better of spilling that 50mg once a week into two 25mg injections Saturday Wednesday or Monday Thursday

@enggirl wrote: Ill take option 3 Furk.

Ill have a look at your recommendations and adjust my diet accordingly.

Just thought this would be an interesting read. dischem.co.za/article/20423-press-releas...protein-supplements-

Thank you for your great input.

Hey @enggirl, my pleasure. We're all on the same team here

That is an interesting study yes. The labels on the products tend to state the total protein based on nitrogen content testing. This is an old and inaccurate method of measuring protein for supplements though. What this study endeavored to do is find the true "whole protein" content" of the powders, thus revealing nitrogen spiking and/or label misinformation (just plain lying).

Protein powders I can vouch for off hand:
Basic Supplements: Whey Concentrate, Isolate, Casein
Amplify: Whey Infusion
Supplement Factory: Whey protein Concentrate, Whey protein Isolate

There a couple more good ones but I need to read the labels again to make sure. I'll get back to you.

Okay, so ive just shuffled my diet a bit, gonna have the egg and oats pre, and beef, zucchini and rice post?

Will that be sufficient?

That sounds a whole lot better. Go for it.

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Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Oupa would she not be better of spilling that 50mg once a week into two 25mg injections Saturday Wednesday or Monday Thursday

Nope, Primo once a week is on target, that half life stays a loooong time with woman, easy 10 days. Thats why she shouldn't inject more, the sides lasts long, and some sides can be very very annoying. :pinch:

Another diet related question, should i be going much lower on my caloric intake or just hold steady? I am already on -30%
I can also adjust the percentages on my protein vs carbs, as i am currently on 40/40. I have been on this ratio for 6weeks now.