Prolactin and e2

Howzit guys
The plan was to put tren A into my cycle from week eleven so far im happy with the progress on 600mg test e and 600mg primo will have better idea when I get closer to the eleven week mark based on where my results are at if I will put it in. Having no experience with tren I was wanting to get your opinions on some info I had read.

I see guys talking about managing their estrogen which in turn controls prolactin instead of running cabaser do any of you guys do it this way if you could elaborate on how if you do?

Also see some say that there is no evidence that tren does increase prolactin?

I dont want to end up with my dick flapping like a bulldogs lips as one of the mods put it before.

I enjoy running higher doses of Tren with TRT levels of Test. I find the side effects are much less.

Tren is a 19-nortestosterone and 19-nors increase Prolactin if you can't evidence for that then you haven't looked. Prolactin is an extremely potent female hormone and kills male characteristics like getting wood and suppresses test levels.

To keep prolactin low there are three main strategies:
1) High test levels
2) Low estrogen/estradiol levels
3) Anti-Prolactin drugs

Some people are lucky that their high test levels do not aromatise into high estrogen levels (high estrogen likes high prolactin and vice versa). Other people like myself have to run an AI to keep estrogen levels low and prevent gyno. This also keeps prolactin low enough not to use anti-prolactin drugs. Others might be more prone to higher prolactin and prefer to leave the AI and just go straight for anti-prolactin drugs. Some experience side effects from e.g cabasser so they prefer to keep down prolactin using the other methods.

Thanks Pyro that's a good explanation you gave. I have been on the adex like you advised went from 0.5mg eod to breaking the 1mg tab into roughly 3 equal pieces so I'm on 0.3mg eod and the nips are 100s

I was thinking of trying to avoid the prolactin issues by keeping the estrogen low before just putting cabaser in because of the effects it has on dopamine in the brain what would you say my approach should be with the Ai do I need to change anything?

If its doesn't work and my prolactin goes up what would the symptoms be that I should start cabaser without getting to the stage of lactating?

My tren dose is going to be low was going to do 50mg eod but pgws comes in 80mg so that's what it will be.

@hormonas don't you have libido issues with the tren higher than the test?

For me personally i have no issues with a low test and mod/high tren dose.. And from personally experience i always run bromo or prami when running tren.

lobo wrote: @hormonas don't you have libido issues with the tren higher than the test?

Not at all, want to penetrate anything with a pulse lol

Thanks fakey I didnt know about bromo and prami for controlling prolactin was only aware of cabaser will look into them.


Hormonas you dirty bastard...haha shot

lobo wrote: Thanks Pyro that's a good explanation you gave. I have been on the adex like you advised went from 0.5mg eod to breaking the 1mg tab into roughly 3 equal pieces so I'm on 0.3mg eod and the nips are 100s

I was thinking of trying to avoid the prolactin issues by keeping the estrogen low before just putting cabaser in because of the effects it has on dopamine in the brain what would you say my approach should be with the Ai do I need to change anything?

If its doesn't work and my prolactin goes up what would the symptoms be that I should start cabaser without getting to the stage of lactating?

My tren dose is going to be low was going to do 50mg eod but pgws comes in 80mg so that's what it will be.

I would suggest you only use an AI and see if that's enough. You can check your prolactin levels 4 weeks before PCT then you will know if you need to add anything. I wouldn't add such a potent drug just because it is a dopamine agonist. :S

You will know when prolactin is too high if you have problems with your wood, libido, or gyno.

Is a little daunting when ones still learning how their body reacts to certain drugs and how to counter any issues before they get out of hand. As a newbie im really grateful this platform is available to us with such knowledgeable mods and senior members to bounce things off instead of just making uniformed decisions which could potentially have serious consequences. I have learnt a lot here so big thanks to all of you.

Thanks Pyro it makes sense what you have suggested will play it like that and have something for prolactin on hand if need be aswell as get the bloods done.

Loving this cycle so far.

We help gladly bro. Don't be afraid to ask questions that's the best way to learn.