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31 Aug 2015 17:22 #189605 by tk101
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Hey guys howsit going just let me start off by introducing myself my name is tk not really but close enough :woohoo: my stats are currently:
Age:25
weight:94kgs
Height:172cm
BF%18
Training on/off for 5 years

See my problem is that i currently work offshore in oil and gas which is a month on month off but recently had a year off due to a knee injury that set me out the guy for awhile and due to that i got so lazy and ate so much rubbish and my bf increased drastically.

I have read about cycles on this site and im pretty keen on a Testocyp and Dbol cycle i have been training on and off for 5 years but been serious for a year and a half before the knee injury, im now currently back in the gym and going harder than ever breaking my pb for flat bench and incline db press and feeling strong and my nutrition is back on point so my question is can i do a cycle even though i know i should drop my bf% to about 12% i just unfortunately dont have time as i only have 5 more months off work then its back offshore to a month on month off rotation for a 5 year contract and its obviously not possible to do a cycle then and i am honestly keen ongiving it a bash.

thanks alot guys.
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31 Aug 2015 18:20 #189606 by Furk
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Hey TK, you on a supply vessel or platforms? Cargo man myself. How's the food on board? My rotations 3 on 2 off, victuals are never healthy.

How much is your body fat now? I reckon it's your best shot. Just plan it so you don't have to take injectables on board and you should be fine.

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31 Aug 2015 18:58 #189607 by tk101
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Hey Furk thanks for the reply, i was on platforms but im on cargos now in anti piracy, food is bad onboard hot chips 24/7. are u also in anti piracy? my body fat is now about 17 at the moment but getting better do u rate i will be ok to do the cycle?

thanks china
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31 Aug 2015 19:29 #189608 by Furk
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Gee okay then our on board food isn't that bad. I often spend time in Africa, but no *official* pirate zones, although they are all high risk in my opinion.

17 percent is a bit high. I'll wait for more experienced users to comment. Is your goal just to add more mass? How's the gym on board?

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31 Aug 2015 21:30 #189611 by tk101
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ya just want to gain more mass basically then do a cut,we have good food on deck but also shit more bad than good, ag the gyms not bad nothing special just the minimal basics but gets the job done hows your equipment?

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31 Aug 2015 21:43 #189612 by Furk
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Gymnasiums depends on the ships, some okay some utter crap. Either way, no heavy duty equipment, your lucky if it has a multi-gym. I've done stuff like nicking shackles and chains from the bosuns locker just to have more weights. Desperate times.

Thing is, if you go on cycle now and you try to add mass you might end up getting a bit fatter. And if you decrease calories too drastically after cycle, plus can't exercise hard, you may end up losing gains.

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31 Aug 2015 23:30 #189615 by tk101
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ya i feel you man i try concentrate on contraction workouts where i squeeze the shit out of my muscles and do as muchsupersets and giant sets to kill myself with the weights we have.

as for the cycle totally true what you said and i really dont feel like putting on more fat, just wasnt sure when i would be able to do a proper full cycle again because this will be the only time that i will have a few months off, but i would also rater be safe than sorry and do it at a later stage in life.

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01 Sep 2015 00:10 #189616 by Furk
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tk101 wrote: ya i feel you man i try concentrate on contraction workouts where i squeeze the shit out of my muscles and do as muchsupersets and giant sets to kill myself with the weights we have.


Haha ja do exactly the same thing!

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01 Sep 2015 07:43 #189619 by Naftaly
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I'm still a novice myself in terms of cycles. However I have picked up that it's always better to start cycle at lower body fat percentages. At least get it around 14 at least, 12 would be ideal.

There are no limits.Only plateaus, and you must not live there, you must go beyond them...

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01 Sep 2015 18:35 #189655 by LegitKigtropin
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The biggest issue with having higher body fat is estrogen related sides. You can easily run a cycle and recomposition your body by keeping estro in control and using lower doses.

Personally at your starting position I'd run moderate test, skip on the dianabol and rather use a non aromatizing oral like anavar (if you can find real var) or epistane and add in a bit of proviron to the mic for health benefits and estrogen sides control. Eat at a very small surplus 100-200kcal over maintenance and slowly add muscle with minimal fat gain, changing your body composition over time. If you're looking lean at the end weeks of this then adding in a bulking oral that doesn't aromatize may give you some more muscle gain to work with, anadrol or superdrol are personal favorites.

Ancillaries like aromasin should be used from the get go in your case, rather don't let estrogen get out of whack and have to control it, much better from your current position to control immediately and not have to worry about it.
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06 Nov 2015 14:57 #192616 by Joscar
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I am also in the oil and gas industry. Just thought I would say that I take along my own resistance bands on jobs in case there is no gym or equipment. Its not perfect but it is definitely a lot better than what's normally onboard.

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06 Nov 2015 16:07 #192617 by Furk
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Joscar wrote: Just thought I would say that I take along my own resistance bands on jobs in case there is no gym or equipment. Its not perfect but it is definitely a lot better than what's normally onboard.


Yeah I also used to take, but eventually it catches up in my luggage, I can only take like 30kg and in a certain amount of bags, and I cut my losses and take more whey with cause sometimes the food is shiiite. But these days they make really cool resistance band systems that use multiple thickness etc.

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