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06 Jul 2015 13:57 #187697 by Namaste
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Hi Gents

Iv'e been doing some homework and I'm almost ready to start my cycle, I just have one or two questions (Yes sorry I know you get them all the time) so if there is an obvious answer then please point me in the direction of the material so I can educate myself rather than waste your time. If you can comment on anything I would really appreciate it.

I have am going away late November /Early December so my goal is to look my best for then. Would like to pick up LEAN mass as I much prefer the look of shredded and strong rather than just big and bulky. I am planning on doing the Cycle-1 that I got out the downloads section on this site.
Cycle:

2x Testocyp (250mg x 10ml)
2x Dianabol (10mg x 50)
1x Optional anti-estrogen (Arimidex)
PCT:
1x HCG 5000iu
1x Clomid (50mg x 15)
1x Nolvadex (20mg x 30)

Question 1: regarding the cycle is at what point and what dosage do I take the Arimidex ? Is it only if I visibly notice something going wrong ?

Question 2: In this Cycle HCG starts at day 113. The last pin is on day 77. That equates to 33 days after the last pin to HCG. I know this is your standard template however I read in another discussion last week that it was recommended too start the HCG earlier to avoid loss of gains. Should I just stick to the standard template on this one?

Question 3: I started taking Ecdysterone 3 weeks ago. Should i stop it when starting cycle ?

Here are my stats.
Current weight 80 kg afternoon.
29 years old
1.78 Height

My profile pic was taken 2 weeks ago after "bulking" for a few weeks. Since then I have slimmed out slightly and stopped taking mass builder during the day creatine to prep my body for the cycle so I can start with a lower body fat.

My diet NOW ,not bulking looks something like this. I do keep it constant and this is just an example of 1 typical day. During cycle I will add a proper meal at lunch time.

Breakfast 6:15 : Smoothie (1 cup Oats ,banana , Yoghurt , 2 scoops Nutritech whey)
Snack at work 8:00 : 3 x boiled eggs , 1 x egg white.
Meal 1 11:30 : 1 x chicken breast , brown rice + lentils average serving.
Snack 13:00 : Grapefrut , avo , maybe cottage cheese
Meal 2 16:00 : 1 x chicken breast ,broccoli, brown rice + lentils average serving.
If I'm hungry ill have a whey shake on the drive home
Gym 18:15 :Pre work out.
Post Gym :Whey scoops
Dinner :Lean mince/fish , brown pasta , veggies

The macros for this is Protein approx 207g, Carbs:210g , fat 119g

As for training, I gym 6 days a week doing all major muscle groups for 1 - 2 hours.
Twice a week I focus on core and bar work such as front lever , muscle ups etc for strength.
I do cardio 3 times a week for 10 to 15 minutes high intensity.

Your experienced input here will be highly appreciated.

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06 Jul 2015 23:12 - 06 Jul 2015 23:17 #187715 by lobo
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Save your bucks for more beers on holiday no need for juice just train hard till you go but if you must have the adex on hand hopefully you not gyno prone and wont need it. if it does flare up start with 0.25mgs eod and adjust accordingly on how you respond. With the hcg start it in week four till 2 days before you start pct at 500ius per week just do nolva and clomid for pct.

Diet will play a big part in what you get out of the cycle you will need to up the calories on your diet.
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07 Jul 2015 08:23 - 07 Jul 2015 08:25 #187720 by Furk
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Lobo pretty much answered 1 & 2 above. As for the Ecdysterone, I don't see how that would be a problem. Unless you are thinking of saving your stock for post cycle or in PCT? Are you using Nutritech?

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07 Jul 2015 08:48 #187723 by Namaste
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Thanks Guys

Lobo I do plan on increasing my cal intake when on cycle. I will play around with carb/protein ratios when I see how my body reacts

Yeah I am using Nutritech , its hard to tell if it actually makes a difference. I have about a weeks supply left so I will stay on it until I get my hands on some gear

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07 Jul 2015 19:23 #187763 by Nate40
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Good luck my bro!
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14 Jul 2015 11:10 #187966 by Namaste
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Hi Guys

I was planning on starting my course on Monday , being 20th July.
I just planned it out on an excel sheet and realised its running for longer than I thought it would.
The date of the last PCT would be 142 days and is December 10th.
The reason I want to the cycle is to look my utmost best in the last week of November ( Special occasion following a romantic holiday early December)
My question therefore is would I be able to cut by then or would I still have that bloated look , and secondly when would pimples start showing ?

Do you recommend I start it now and just go with it , cut it shorter or not do it at all ?

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14 Jul 2015 11:20 #187968 by Oupiel
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Is it just Dbol & Test cyp?

What's your pinning & dosage schedule?

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14 Jul 2015 11:40 - 14 Jul 2015 11:41 #187970 by Namaste
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Yes just dbol and test . I have been considering winny for a bridge but I want to do some more homework on that first.

I am using the cycle 1 schedule
Dbol :40mg per day for 25 days. Split 10 /10/20 before training

Testcyp : 25mg pin every 4 days. 20 pins in total from day 1 -77
Last edit: 14 Jul 2015 11:41 by Namaste. Reason: spelling

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14 Jul 2015 11:47 #187971 by Oupiel
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OK

You should start to really notice the Test Cyp around week 5, ish.
Dbol, should kick within days.

You could cut your cycle short to suite your agenda, but at the time, I bet you won't want to.
Also, my skin is oilier while on cycle, but I usually get back acne when I come off i.e. PCT & after.

Are you planning on running HCG?

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14 Jul 2015 11:58 #187973 by Nate40
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Cutting a cycle short hurts the overall objective a bit my bro.
Also, it seems risky to start a cycle when you haven't properly researched certain vital elements like the bridge.
Just want you to get the best out of your cycle and not waste your bucks my bro.
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14 Jul 2015 13:04 #187980 by Namaste
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Thanks for taking the time to reply guys , no matter how much literature you read sometimes all you need is someone to actually give you direction
Oupiel you right , I probably wouldn't want to stop once I notice results.
I will run HCG during cycle from week 4 until 2 days before the PCT, feel free to comment if you suggest otherwise.

Thanks Nate, I know stopping short would be silly but I just wanted a professional opinion
To clarify about the bridge, I did my research and was just hoping I would get a comment considering my time constraint situation.
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23 Jul 2015 11:57 #188231 by Namaste
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Hi Guys

I have just picked up my gear.
The testocyp I received was from Nomadlab. I've just read up on it and don't see too many happy users. I will keep you updated on how its going.

I have the dbol on hand but I'm just a little reluctant o start before I clear something up.
Would it be advisable to rather run Tbol- Turinabol instead of the dbol to limit the amount of water retention or should I save my buck and go with what I had originally planned ?

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23 Jul 2015 12:20 #188233 by IronKobra767
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Namaste wrote: Hi Guys

I have just picked up my gear.
The testocyp I received was from Nomadlab. I've just read up on it and don't see too many happy users. I will keep you updated on how its going.

I have the dbol on hand but I'm just a little reluctant o start before I clear something up.
Would it be advisable to rather run Tbol- Turinabol instead of the dbol to limit the amount of water retention or should I save my buck and go with what I had originally planned ?

Hi Namaste

I'm about to begin the same cycle as you (also my first pinning cycle / real cycle) and after asking more or less the same questions as you and more, I opted to use Tbol instead and add winstrol as a bridge. Go check out my thread, the guys have given a lot of good advice which covers all the questions you're asking.

Cheers
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23 Jul 2015 12:37 #188237 by Namaste
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Thanks Iron Kobra, that's pretty helpful.
What dosage are you doing the tbol ? also 4mg ED ?

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23 Jul 2015 13:13 #188238 by IronKobra767
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Haha. I think you meant 40 bud. 4mg a day isn't gonna get you many gains I'd imagine.

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23 Jul 2015 13:14 #188239 by IronKobra767
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Ah man. Sorry Namaste. I posted my full schedule for you. I'm having serious issues with Tapa Talk. Keeps deleted half my post after I submit. I'll retype again now.

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23 Jul 2015 14:28 #188245 by Namaste
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:lol: Yes I meant 40mg, Iv'e seen a lot of people bump that dosage up

Man that's a bummer , thanks though !

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