3rd Cycle Advice

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11 Jun 2015 09:35 #186717 by GFORCE
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Hi Guys .

I'm planning my third cycle once my PCT is over and not sure what I should take considering the following information :

My Weight = 82Kg
Fat % = 12%
Height =179cm

I don't want to gain too much water retention , But looking to pack on some lean mass.

What do you suggest .

Thanks

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11 Jun 2015 09:39 #186718 by Nate40
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Hey my bro,

Remember in order for your body to reset properly, time off is essential before starting a new cycle. Cycle + pct time should be the same time off.

In terms of not retaining water and gaining lean muscle mass, definitely go equi bro.
Dbol kick start, test enanthate and equi for 16 weeks, with proviron and hcg on cycle. Then anavar maybe with test prop through bridge.

How long was your current cycle?

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11 Jun 2015 10:22 #186722 by GFORCE
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Thanks man.
I won't mess around with the recovery (PCT) cycle I know its very important , I'll be patient and stick it out .

My last cycle was for 12 weeks .

I'm new to this world of anabolics , so forgive me if I'm not familiar with all the terminology. What does "bridge" involve and how do I incorporate it into the following plan that you have suggested, and please advise if the plan is correct :

Weeks 1-6 ( DBol)- What Dose ??
Weeks 1 -16 (Equi)- What dose ??
Weeks 1-16 ( Test Enanthate) -What dose ??
Weeks 1-16 ( HCG + Proviron ) - What dose ?? (I thought HCG was only for PCT ?)
BRIDGE ?? ( Ananvar + Test Prop) When / What dose
What do you recommend for PCT after this Cycle?

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11 Jun 2015 10:37 #186725 by Oupiel
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For lean/dry gains, I'd suggest replacing the Dbol with either Turinabol or Superdrol (they don't aromatise)

A bridge is when you use other compounds to keep you anabolic while the exogenous test levels drop low enough to allow for your natural test production to start.

So Test E has a half life or 8 - 10.5 days.
At 500mg/week, you would wait 3 x the half life for the levels to drop down before starting PCT i.e. 32 days.
During this 32 day wait, while Test levels drop, is where you use an Oral to "bridge" to the start of your PCT.

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11 Jun 2015 10:47 #186726 by Oupiel
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GFORCE wrote: My Weight = 82Kg
Fat % = 12%
Height =179cm


At 179cm, you should quite easily be at 80kgs clean!! (with the right/sufficient training history)
After your 3rd cycle, you should easily be at 90kgs, especially at 12% BF.

What this says is that your diet needs work - more gear won't compensate for lack of calories!
Also your training may need tweaking.

Although, I could be wrong!!
If you're coming from 70kgs on this last cycle, then OK.

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11 Jun 2015 10:58 #186729 by Nate40
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Check out my thread "Nate's second cycle" bro.
I am currently on that exact cycle.
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11 Jun 2015 20:04 #186743 by FIllet
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Personally I always use prop with oral in the bridge, makes me feel better. Just ensure you stop prop twelve days before pct. Shoot 1000 iu's hcg during bridge but not into pct - weekly
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12 Jun 2015 06:38 #186747 by SteveC
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I find that if you are wanting a bit less bloat and using test it is always good to do 50% prop and 50% cyp/enanthate. I always used to do that back in the day untill i had a lay off. So i use to run 100mg prop and 123mg cyp 3x a week. Gave less bloat and decent strength gains. Also be certain to run an ai during your cycle. 0.5mg adex or 20mg aromasin daily or eod based on your e2 levels during your cycles blood test.

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