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10 Jun 2015 21:18 - 11 Jun 2015 09:01 #186708 by Pietskiet
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Hi guys. I need some help, I'm on a 10 week test E cycle (600mg per week) and I'm in week 2 at the moment. I have been on 2 previous cycles where i developed very slight gyno because of stupidity. I just need some help to spot if its flaring up, and also just for interest sake, if anyone has had the surgery done to remove it, I'd like to know what the general price range is please.
Thanks in advance.
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11 Jun 2015 08:48 #186711 by FIllet
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Opinion 1:
Remove your face buddy, this is a steroid site and you are using.
Opinion 2:
Your BF is to high to be juicing, possibly increasing your oestrogen and chances of gyno
3:
What do you have on hand as an AI?

I haven't done it but its around 30k I believe.
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11 Jun 2015 08:53 #186712 by Francois13
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pietskiet!

first things first, don't post a pic that shows you face...
are you currently using an anti-estrogen? do you have anything on hand?
Letrozole/Arimidex, please read up on this!


hoe oud is jy?
jou BF is veel te hoog om op sous te klim tjom, as mens te veel BF het en jy klim op sous, dan kan jy prone wees tot gyno! die ander manne gaan jou dieselfde ding vertel..
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11 Jun 2015 08:54 #186713 by Francois13
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FIllet wrote: Opinion 1:
Remove your face buddy, this is a steroid site and you are using.
Opinion 2:
Your BF is to high to be juicing, possibly increasing your oestrogen and chances of gyno
3:
What do you have on hand as an AI?

I haven't done it but its around 30k I believe.


LOL, more or less the same reply at the same time :silly: :lol:
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11 Jun 2015 10:24 #186723 by Oupiel
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What they said!!!

But the cat is out the bag - So....

Up your cardio training significantly!
Get your diet under control - aim for calories at BMI maintenance or below
Increase your rep range to 15 per set

What I'm suggesting is that you use this cycle to cut BF%
The test will help maintain lean muscle mass.

With reduced BF, you will be less prone to Estrogenic sides
You also look a hell of a lot better ;-)

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12 Jun 2015 09:43 #186755 by Pietskiet
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Thanks guys. My bf was around 11-12% when I started. I'm taking in around 4000 cal per day so it has really bloated me. I do have adex on hand. Currently taking half a tab per day. And just a side note. I haven't felt any itchiness or irritation around my nips so far. And week 7-11 if this cycle i will be on Anavar to lean out a bit before I start my pct.

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12 Jun 2015 10:04 #186762 by Oupiel
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Sorry, is it just me, or is something wrong here???

I think maybe you're trusting an incorrect BF% measurement!!
I'm no expert, but at a glance, you're way off 11 - 12%

And that never happened in 2 weeks!!!
Maybe get another BF% test done, cos I think you have been mislead.

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12 Jun 2015 10:14 #186765 by Nate40
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I agree with Oupiel totally. Get a proper calliper test done my bro.
Its totally worth an accurate measurement so you can track your progress properly.
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12 Jun 2015 10:52 #186767 by Francois13
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12 Jun 2015 13:03 #186772 by Pietskiet
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Will do. Do you guys suggest i stop with my cycle until my bf is around 10-12% or just up my cardio to 5 times a week?

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12 Jun 2015 13:13 #186773 by Pietskiet
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Francois13 wrote:


Working off that picture I'm at about 15% atm. If that helps.

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12 Jun 2015 13:14 #186774 by FIllet
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IMO, stay on cycle and drop your calories to a good deficit, increase cardio. You will lose fat. Use your AI.
Next time seek advice before running a cycle.
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12 Jun 2015 13:16 #186775 by lobo
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I would keep going just manage the estrogen if it becomes an issue.
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12 Jun 2015 13:23 #186776 by Rhino
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Don't mean to sound like a Cock but your well over 15% Bud. 20+

Go big or go home...

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12 Jun 2015 13:42 #186779 by Pietskiet
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Rhino wrote: Don't mean to sound like a Cock but your well over 15% Bud. 20+

understandable bud. Just to put it into context, these photos were taken not 15mins after a large meal. I'm quite positive I'm at +-15% if I'm working off of the picture that was posted.

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12 Jun 2015 13:47 #186781 by Pietskiet
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FIllet wrote: IMO, stay on cycle and drop your calories to a good deficit, increase cardio. You will lose fat. Use your AI.
Next time seek advice before running a cycle.

Thanks bud. My cycle isn't that badly planned. Apparently I just had a large misperceptions on my bf percentage. But I will defo drop the amount of calories and substitute the pasta in my diet with brown/basmati rice. I appreciate the help, everyone. I honestly expected a bunch of asshole comments.
Lol my faith in humanity has been restored.

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12 Jun 2015 14:22 #186783 by FIllet
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Mondays are our days for giving asshole comments :P :P :P
Fridays we preparing for a short weekend and being back to assholes on Monday :whistle:
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15 Jun 2015 00:46 #186816 by Pietskiet
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Francois13 wrote: pietskiet!

first things first, don't post a pic that shows you face...
are you currently using an anti-estrogen? do you have anything on hand?
Letrozole/Arimidex, please read up on this!


hoe oud is jy?
jou BF is veel te hoog om op sous te klim tjom, as mens te veel BF het en jy klim op sous, dan kan jy prone wees tot gyno! die ander manne gaan jou dieselfde ding vertel..

I just wanted to ask a question about Letro. I've heard conflicting opinions on it, some stating that it is too strong to use unless you want to reverse the effects of gyno and others saying they run it during a cycle. I'd like to hear what you guys have to say on this, Adex vs. Letro type argument.

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15 Jun 2015 00:47 #186817 by Pietskiet
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FIllet wrote: Mondays are our days for giving asshole comments :P :P :P
Fridays we preparing for a short weekend and being back to assholes on Monday :whistle:

Lol. Damn. Its monday now. So i need to tread lightly :P

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15 Jun 2015 06:50 #186818 by Mason Might
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With Letro you need to find a comfortable dose for yourself. It can be used on cycle without a problem, just use as low a dosage as possible. It works out more cost effective than adex too. Adex is less harsh on the body, but I think it's negligible at maintenance doses.

When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.

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15 Jun 2015 07:50 #186819 by Pietskiet
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Mason Might wrote: With Letro you need to find a comfortable dose for yourself. It can be used on cycle without a problem, just use as low a dosage as possible. It works out more cost effective than adex too. Adex is less harsh on the body, but I think it's negligible at maintenance doses.

I've noticed that there's quite a big price gap. How many drops of letro would be considered a low dosage? I've seen people taking 6 and people taking 3. Does it depend on the individual?

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15 Jun 2015 08:16 #186821 by Mason Might
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Yes bud, start at 3 and increase as necessary.

When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.
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15 Jun 2015 11:10 #186829 by Pietskiet
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Mason Might wrote: Yes bud, start at 3 and increase as necessary.

I hope you don't mind all the Q's bud, but since I've never used Letro and it has some notoriety, I think its better to ask. You said "increase as necessary..." How does one know if it is necessary or not? What are the signs that it is working? And also, how often does one take it?

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15 Jun 2015 20:14 #186858 by Mason Might
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Ask away bud...

Letro takes about two weeks to hit optimal levels so try start it accordingly. You can dose it ED or even EOD. If you are using it, for example, to minimise bloating and you become more bloated. You can then increase the dosage. The same applies to any unwanted sides associated with estrogen. You know it's working if you don't experience those sides while using it. Remember though that its very important to slowly taper off of it as estrogen rebound can be an issue. If that's a problem for you, consider Aromasin.

When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.
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15 Jun 2015 23:03 #186863 by Pietskiet
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Mason Might wrote: Ask away bud...

Letro takes about two weeks to hit optimal levels so try start it accordingly. You can dose it ED or even EOD. If you are using it, for example, to minimise bloating and you become more bloated. You can then increase the dosage. The same applies to any unwanted sides associated with estrogen. You know it's working if you don't experience those sides while using it. Remember though that its very important to slowly taper off of it as estrogen rebound can be an issue. If that's a problem for you, consider Aromasin.

I've also read about Letro destroying certain people's libido and causing erectile dysfunction problems. Any truth to these rumors? How long would one taper off? A week or 2 weeks, or does it depend on the dose you were taking?
I appreciate the help a lot man.

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