gains between cycles

Hi guys
Having just finished my first cycle and busy with nolva on pct just wanted to find out how much of the gains and condition gained on cycle can one realistically keep before starting another in 4 months after pct and can one still make gains and improvements in the muscle look not necessarily size between cycles?

Regards

If you stay on track with your diet and training, you should keep every thing that is genetically capable for your body.

Your body will change off cycle, no more demi god, loss of mass, loss of strength and motivation to be honest. May I ask your goals? Example of physique you want to end up with? Oupa is correct but note the word genetically...

Thanks oupa been training like a mofo thought I would of been feeling like hell when I came off but been alright one of your posts concerning this sticks in my head mind over matter. Back on all the natural supplements like creatine and the usuals will start zma after the nolva diets also in check got the carbs down low at moment that cycle got the veins and abs out want to keep it that way just put on lean quality muscle from here already getting ideas of what to run next l like the sound of primo in there somewhere but will see what I come up with between now and then. Thanks for the sound advice.

Hi fillet
I suppose its expected there will be losses just wasn't sure how much. would be disappointing if I was back at square one by the time the next cycle came around if I can keep some and then after the next cycle add a bit more onto what I kept and keep going like that surely then by like the 6th cycle for example even after your losses when coming off you will be say the size you were when you were on in the 3rd cycle not sure bud does it work like that as the muscle matures? hope I am explaining myself properly.

With regards the genetics I would say my muscle shape is there and from what I have read one cant change the shape of a muscle only make it bigger so reckon im lucky there but still need to add alot more muscle to my frame. My goals have changed from when I first started out then it was just about been massive i was carrying too much fat but. now I am going for big but aesthetic with full muscle bellys for example like shawn rhoden and a bit of branch warrens freaky graininess that would be awesome I know its a long shot but thats where I want to get to eventually. I still have alot to learn with regards the chemical side of things so any advice is appreciated.

Last time we spoke you were on jumped in early I remember hows that cycle going?

Bro, I won't lie... I shorten time off between cycles as I see muscle loss quick. Golden cycle I could keep muscle retention for four months, as cycles progressed it was less time off. Now I am looking at staying on gh between cycles. You can't hold the mass unless on some shit. Trt and blast or peptides and blast. This may Fuck people off but it's a fact

Haha think you right fillet but I still need my nuts to do there thing else my girl will be looking at me sideways when im shooting blanks but will probably wind up going down that road at a later stage in life. the peptide and blast sounds like a better option for now cost permitting. Thanks for your input on this appretiate it. Let us know when you start that cycle you and oupa were discussing it looked wicked.

With my Little experience I also noticed that I lost a lot of my gains but not really strength. I think I bench an good amount of weight for my weight (76kg (lost 9kg)). Granted I did do a cut immediately after my cycle and its been about 4 months off now. It fucks me over mentally. I feel so small but in pictures I can still see a big difference. Glad to see it's not just me. Buying my next cycle soon. I like to save up and make sure I get everything + PCT on day one. But its tempting .