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11 May 2015 09:49 #185363 by KES
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Hi Guys,

Total newbie here. Would like to start bulking up and gain some mass, so I have decided to try steroids. So what would a great starter pack be to try? Not keen on doing injectables straight away so want to try tablets first.

I found and oral bulk pack on a local website which comes with 2 products, DBOL-X and TEST 400 capsules, it runs on an 8 week course. Would these be sufficient to try and test out and take from there?

Also worried about the whole gynecomastia issue, what would I do to counter this?

Sorry to trouble you guys with my questions but I would appreciate any help

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11 May 2015 10:32 #185364 by admin
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Those DBOL-X and TEST 400 capsules aren't real steroids, just look at the ingredients.
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11 May 2015 10:35 #185365 by KES
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So what should I be looking at buying if I want to try the oral route first?

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11 May 2015 10:37 #185366 by admin
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You are really limiting your options if you want oral only, but look at the sample cycles. There are two oral only cycles that might work: anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/sample-cycles

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11 May 2015 10:41 #185367 by Schmidt
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Based on the "steroid pack" that the OP is asking about, I wonder if his diet and training is on point?

KES, what are your stats?

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11 May 2015 10:45 #185368 by KES
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Thanks Admin I will take a look at that! I realise I might be limiting myself with orals only but if I can see some decent results using only orals I will definitely move to injectibles.

@Schmidt my exercise and diet are pretty good at the moment but I want to bulk up. I am 6 foot and weigh 84kg's at the moment.

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11 May 2015 11:09 #185369 by Oupa
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Your first cycle is your golden cycle... dont fuck it up. Dont expect to get big fast from steroids, you will be bitterly disappointment. It takes years !

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11 May 2015 11:21 #185370 by KES
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Thanks for that Oupa, not looking for miracle muscles in a few weeks, I just want to start seeing better results than I am currently. What would you suggest to keep my first cycle as close to 100% as I can?

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11 May 2015 12:03 #185371 by Oupa
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Whats your age ?

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11 May 2015 12:04 #185372 by KES
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29 in June

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11 May 2015 12:17 #185373 by Oupa
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General health issues? any meds?

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11 May 2015 12:20 #185374 by KES
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I have slightly high blood pressure (140/90 at the time of being put on the meds) but my doctor is planning on taking me off of my meds as its seems to have stabilized and returned to normal.

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11 May 2015 12:41 #185376 by Oupa
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30 years old.. Run a testosterone cyp only cycle for 12 weeks. Add provron from day 1 at 40mg ED right up to one day before PCT.

That is one of the best ever foundations you will have starting off with steroids.

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11 May 2015 12:48 #185377 by KES
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Thanks for that Oupa.
When running the testosterone cyp, how much would you recommend? (sorry for the questions)

Where would you recommend buying from?

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11 May 2015 13:09 #185381 by Oupa
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At your height, weight and age, 500mg per week is more that enough to start off with.

Where can you buy from............ if i could tell you i would be a rich white south african hahaha.

Its against the rules of this website to ask for sources m8. If you want info about products , use this link

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/contact-us/3-enquiries
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11 May 2015 13:12 #185382 by KES
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Hahahaha I understand, sorry I did not realise it was againts forum rules.

And last question for now, if I had to start with your recommendations and I carry on with a decent training regime and diet, how long before I see results in terms of gains that I have battled to achieve before?

Once again thanks for all your suggestions Oupa, will definitely look further into this

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11 May 2015 13:29 #185383 by Oupa
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I cannot make an accurate call because i know fak all about you. But usually you will notice a emotional change within the first 2 weeks, (for the better) and a physical change will show from week 8 onwards.

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11 May 2015 13:30 #185384 by KES
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Thanks Oupa, I appreciate your time and patience B)

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11 May 2015 13:38 - 11 May 2015 13:38 #185386 by Oupa
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Good thing you found this forum, as here is loads of experienced members on this forum.

Good luck and ask if you want to know something.
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12 May 2015 10:04 #185432 by KES
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@Oupa What do you think of Dianabol & Testocyp for me to start off with compared to what you suggested? And from experience, what side effects if any did you encounter?

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12 May 2015 10:16 #185433 by Oupa
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Its a good cycle. Just make sure you have an AI on hand for possible gyno issues.

Read this

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/drug...6-methandrostenolone
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12 May 2015 10:40 #185434 by Senti
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keep us posted when you start your cycle....would be awesome to see gains incured from Test and Proviron cyce...

it looks heavy!!

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12 May 2015 10:45 #185435 by KES
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I shall do so! Leaning slightly more towards the Dianabol & Test unless anyone can advocate the Proviron more from experience?

That being said, any last tips or words of wisdom before I decide on what to take?

Thanks guys!

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12 May 2015 11:21 - 12 May 2015 11:21 #185436 by Oupa
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You cannot go wrong with a test and dbol cycle, adding proviron definitely decreases high estrogen side effects
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12 May 2015 11:24 #185437 by KES
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Then thats what I think I shall be looking at B)

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