2nd cycle - Test e. / Dbol / Boldenone (EQ) ?

Hey everyone ,

Im planning on doing a 2nd cycle on september so im preparing a bit early . I had my first cycle last year , everything went well and came back to normal now (Blood test) . I only had a small libido problem though right after i had finished my pct , and it took a while to get back to normal .

My 1st cycle was :
1-10 : Test e. 500mg
1-4 : Dbol 30mg
Arimidex : 0.5mg EOD

PCT (14 days after last pin - i know i fell right into the trap) :
Clomid + Nolva : 100/100/50/50 - 40/40/20/20

The 2nd cycle i plan on doing on september is :

1-12 : Test c. 500mg/EW
13-14 : Test e. 500mg/EW
1-12 : Boldenone 500mg/EW
1-4 : Dbol 30mg/ED
3-18 : HCG 500iu/EW

The only reason why im going to use test c. from week 1 till 12 and then test e. in the last 2 weeks from week 13 till 14 is because im getting premixed vials of : 250mg test c. + 250mg boldenone / per ml . And since i wanted to stop the EQ 2 weeks before the test , then i wouldnt be able to inject from the same premixed vial . So im going to use some test e. i have in another vial .


18-22 PCT :
Clomid - Week 18 (Day 1-7) : 50mg x 2 ED
Nolvadex - Week 19/20/21/22 (Day 8-37) : 20mg ED

Looking forward to getting some help from the pros and see if i could change something to make this cycle the safest .

Cheers !!

I saw eliehabib9's results and they are awesome.

Perhaps post your stats and a pic or two.

If you look up dedication in the dictionary, eliehabib9's pic will be the description.

Good luck bro and I can honestly say to the gurus here, this guy WILL listen to your advice.

I am definitely going to be following his progress.

Thanks for the positive vibes man

Ill post a pic as my profile picture .

I already learned alot of new stuff from this forum ! Information that i haven't had the chance to see anywhere , mostly about PCT .

Hope i can build a better cycle with your help this time .

Cheers

Cyclo wrote: I saw eliehabib9's results and they are awesome.

Perhaps post your stats and a pic or two.

If you look up dedication in the dictionary, eliehabib9's pic will be the description.

Good luck bro and I can honestly say to the gurus here, this guy WILL listen to your advice.

I am definitely going to be following his progress.

If Cyclo vouches for you that's good enough for me.

@Prince Habibi: How long ago did you do PCT and stop the cycle? 250mg Test C + 250mg EQ in ONE ml??! Sounds like BS to me man. Post some stats and diet.

Prince Habibi ? lmao

I stopped cycle around the 15th of november 2014 and ended pct around last week of december 2014 .

250mg test c. + 250mg EQ in one ml is pretty legit man , i couldnt believe it myself but its a reallyy trustful source and UL that alot of competitors buy from here in europe . The brand is called XBS , they still dont have this premixed vial on the website because they still didnt update it , but the source im getting it from is LEGIT . Vial is called X-Powerbol by XBS labs .

My diet and stats on last cycle / present :

Bench press : 160kg x 1 (352lbs) / 140kg x 3 (308lbs)
Squat : 140kg x 10 (308lbs) / 100kg x 10 (220lbs)
Deadlifts : 180kg x 2 (396lbs) / 140kg x 6 (308lbs)

September 2014 Cycle Diet :
Total : 3114 Cal
Protein : 233gr
Carbs : 311gr
Fat : 104gr

Present diet :
Cutting slowly , not counting calories . At about 80gr carbs , 120gr proteins , 50gr fat

Height : 170cm / 5ft6
Weight : 75kg / 165lbs
Age : 22 on august

Voilà

Add your complete diet and training breakdown breakdown.

Maybe post some before and after pics.

Guys, eliehabib is from France so has access to totally different labs/products.

I think its smart to diet and tighten things up before you blast test,dbol

EQ is fantastic and will work terrificly as your fist primarily anabolic ... problem is most people don't blow up correctly starting @ a higher bf% and think its bunk you wont have this problem I'm sure

You are very lean, great stats and great cycle well

I highly recommend you keep that HCG 500mg on that cycle if your blood work is crappy beforehand LH example with over a gram of test forf3 months you want cortisol happy so it can maintain as much natural conversion to progesterone and other anti-aging/hrt benefits

oh and that test/bold per ml sounds great is the bold the un-dec ester? if its a cyp ester of eq that would be even better hit faster im yet to see that ester of eq here in SA i would try it if I had access im a big EQ fan

Exactly bro , thats what im trying to do even if i lose alot of weight until september , but my plan is to start this cycle at around 8% bf !

HCG is going to stay all around cycle @500iu/per week starting from 3rd week when the compounds kick in . Im still not sure though wether to take the HCG while ON cycle or like Dr. Scally mentions , before PCT ... I just want the most optimal choices , im trying my best to figure it out

The test c. + bold is pretty awesome i agree . Boldenone is undecylenate ester .
Im not sure if i can post the source here (the website where i get them from) but if i can lemme know . I think they ship worldwide and they're very trusted

eliehabib9 wrote: Im not sure if i can post the source here (the website where i get them from) but if i can lemme know . I think they ship worldwide and they're very trusted

That won't be allowed bud, I'm sure loads of kids are drooling, waiting for you to post it but sorry for them haha

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Alright thanks guys , got it

More opinions on the cycle ?

From the movie Click with Adam Sandler: Prince Habibi



My opinion I think HCG early in the cycle all the way up to PCT is best. Your bridge is about 30 days from the pin of test which is quite a long time. Think about adding an oral during this period up until two days before start of PCT to ensure you keep anabolic during this period and don't lose muscle. Your current calories are far too low and you risk losing gains. I would bump it up to 2500 and make some natural gains. Up the carbs to atleast 150g.

Alright so HCG on cycle confirmed !

Recap :

1-14 : Test c. 500mg/EW
1-12 : Boldenone 500mg/EW
1-4 : Dbol 40mg/ED
3-18 : HCG 500iu/EW

After last pin i wait 30 days

Then week 19 : Clomid 50mg x 2 - ED

After that week 20/21/22/23 : Nolvadex 20mg - ED

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Only last question is , should i use arimidex or aromasin ? And what doses to start with until i get blood tests ?

eliehabib9 wrote:
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Only last question is , should i use arimidex or aromasin ? And what doses to start with until i get blood tests ?

Aromasin @ 20mg E2D or EOD in cycle

Thank you

eliehabib9 wrote: Alright so HCG on cycle confirmed !

Recap :

1-14 : Test c. 500mg/EW
1-12 : Boldenone 500mg/EW
1-4 : Dbol 40mg/ED
3-18 : HCG 500iu/EW

After last pin i wait 30 days

Then week 19 : Clomid 50mg x 2 - ED

After that week 20/21/22/23 : Nolvadex 20mg - ED

Pyro mentioned your "bridge". As I told you, that is a short acting compound like Anavar, Winstrol or Turanibol that you take during the month before PCT to remain anabolic otherwise you will lose a lot of your gains.
You can even pin a short acting test everyday.

I would seriously consider a compound to bridge with. You had awesome gains on your first cycle and this would be the last of the "golden" cycles so make the most of it.

I agree with Cyclo's point about taking something to bridge to PCT with. The wait for PCT after EQ is long and you'll probably start feeling pretty crap the last few weeks before PCT. It's very common, so I'd recommend you consider doing some winny or anavar.

Alright i might add winny then , var's too expensive :whistle:

Im gonna have to do some research about winstrol since i know nothing about it .

During my 30 day wait , how much stranozolol mgs would you recommend per day ? Speard out ? At once ?

MA the guru ! Your article about PCTing changed my whole perspective about all of this , and i thank you for that !

Does the 4 week wait seem enough to you knowing that im stopping EQ 2 weeks before my last pin of test ?

If there's something im worried about , it's the PCT :S

eliehabib9 wrote: During my 30 day wait , how much stranozolol mgs would you recommend per day ? Speard out ? At once ?

40-50mg spread throughout the day would be ideal, oral Winstrol's half life is around 9hrs so try to plan it so that it will be in your system 24/7.

The suggested wait for Equi is ~50 days and Test Cyp ~36 days so stopping the Equi 2 weeks before the test is perfect.

Just remember, these waiting periods are suggestions and global averages. A drug needs 3-4 half lives to be eliminated almost completely.

The best course of action would be getting baseline bloodtests of Test, LH etc. Then 4 weeks after your last Test pin. You want to time your PCT to start when your Test is as close as possible to normal levels. This should get the HPTA firing again. You are using hCG so the Leydig cells should still be operating and the Aromasin should still have prevented rebound Oestrogen levels. That is why the PCT will be smoother with hCG being used in cycle.

Yep doing alot of blood tests this time . I was actually wrong saying "last question" in my previous answer :lol: This never ends lol

Alright so right now , i pretty much have the basics in check ; Cycle + Bridging + PCT .

One last thing is the blood tests . Excuse my ignorance guys , but im actually not a doctor , im a 21 (soon 22) year old architect lol

Can anyone please give me a detailed blood test like the most important things i have to get checked BEFORE , DURING , WHILE BRIDGING , WHILE PCTING , and finally AFTER CYCLE ?

Oh and one last thing , MA said that ill start feeling like crap during the wait to get to PCT . But i dont really understand why since im trying NOT to go below my "natural test levels" before starting the clomid and nolva ?

Thank you all for your help

Thanks for your answer man , do you think tapering down on the last week would be a good idea ? Doing winny for 4 weeks @ 40/40/30/20 ?

eliehabib9 wrote: Thanks for your answer man , do you think tapering down on the last week would be a good idea ? Doing winny for 4 weeks @ 40/40/30/20 ?

I wouldnt no, not on 4 weeks as then the compound is only 100 active

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