Dianabol

Hey there,

I am considering going on a 4 week cycle (20-30mg daily) but still have some questions. A lot of threads recommend taking dbol with a testosterone supplement etc. How necessary is this? Like if I took dbol alone without any of the other shit would that have that great of an impact on the end result or cause any major adverse effect once the cycle is complete? Still pretty new to this so just wanna get my facts straight before committing.

Thanks in advance

Chris

hi Chris and welcome to the forum:)
I truly hate to say this but you need to do alot more research if this is your opening question.
Nobody here is going to spoon feed you anything ...sorry bud.
dbol only cycles and any other oral only cycles for that matter are a bad idea.
Start with a basic test cycle but before you do that what are your stats?
what's your diet looking like?and what have you considered for pct??
these are more important questions you should be asking first before you consider any cycle .
a cycle takes proper planning and it's not just something you jump into:)
best of luck on your journey and I somehow hope this has helped you.
cheers

Thanks for your response. Yeah I probably should have done a little more research before posting that haha. I'm 175 cm currently at 72kg. I'm an ectomorph so I am on a hypercaloric diet (I eat around 7 meals a day - i.e. every 3 hours or so). As for the PCT I was considering Clomid? Do you have any better suggestions?

what is your age ?and how many calories do you take in a day?7 meals tells me nothing.....
what is your training history and experience ??
go have a look at the sample cycle section ....
Dude just do more research that's all...as I said nobody is going to spoon feed you ....
give the guys a proper idea of a cycle you want to do then they will tweak it for you...

I'm 22 years old. I consume around 3300 calories daily. I've been gymming on and off for just over a year. But yeah, I'll do a little more research, make a sample cycle and post it in cycle discussions.

CCP92 wrote: I'm 22 years old. I consume around 3300 calories daily. I've been gymming on and off for just over a year. But yeah, I'll do a little more research, make a sample cycle and post it in cycle discussions.

If you are actually eating 3300 calories per day then you should be growing. A quick calculation on a calorie calculator says that 2500 calories is your maintenance amount.

Post up your diet so we can have a look at it. Just be truthful with it, if you lie then we can't help you. Let's have a look at your diet first and then we can talk steroids.

Here's my eating plan:

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4 eggs, 2 slices of toasts. I also cook dinner in excess so I have a meal for the following day (also saves time and money).

But yeah, what would the point be of lying about my calorie intake lol?

CCP92 wrote: But yeah, what would the point be of lying about my calorie intake lol?

I will have a look at your diet now, as will others on here and we will see what we can help with.

The reason I mentioned lying was because a lot of people say that they are eating more than they actually are which makes it seem like they have an "issue with growing and need steroids to help" - if you know what I mean?

CCP92 wrote: Here's my eating plan:

i57.tinypic.com/a44db8.png

4 eggs, 2 slices of toasts. I also cook dinner in excess so I have a meal for the following day (also saves time and money).

But yeah, what would the point be of lying about my calorie intake lol?

Shocking diet :blink:

Okay so I have just looked at your diet. I suggest trying to find out the macros and calories for each of the meals you have - it will make it easier for us to judge portion size. I wouldn't class a breakfast smoothie, whey protein shake and cottage cheese as 'meals', those are extras which you should be eating/drinking whist eating something else. The meal replacement shake is okay, but again, what are the macros and calories for each serving?

From looking at your diet, I don't think you're hitting your goal of 3300 calories.

Here is a sample diet I have stolen off of bodybuilding.com which is for 3423 calories:

MEAL 1
240 / 24 / 02 / 20 || Scrambled Eggs (4)
150 / 05 / 27 / 03 || Oats (1/2C)
040 / 01 / 10 / 00 || Blueberries (1/2C)
160 / 16 / 22 / 00 || Fat Free Milk (2C)
010 / 00 / 00 / 01 || Fish Oil Capsule (1)
010 / 00 / 00 / 00 || Flaxseed Oil Capsule (1)

---

590 / 46 / 61 / 24

PREWORKOUT
110 / 20 / 04 / 02 || GNC Pro Performance Whey Scoop (1)

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110 / 20 / 04 / 02

POSTWORKOUT
110 / 20 / 04 / 02 || GNC Pro Performance Whey Scoop (1)
150 / 05 / 27 / 03 || Oats (1/2C)
040 / 01 / 10 / 00 || Blueberries (1/2C)

---

300 / 26 / 41 / 05

MEAL 2
350 / 63 / 00 / 10 || Tyson's Chicken Breast (10oz)
150 / 03 / 34 / 02 || Minute Brown Rice (1/2C)
010 / 00 / 00 / 01 || Fish Oil Capsule (1)
010 / 00 / 00 / 00 || Flaxseed Oil Capsule (1)

---

520 / 66 / 34 / 13

MEAL 3
053 / 01 / 14 / 00 || Banana (1/2)
210 / 08 / 06 / 16 || Smucker's Natural PB Creamy (2Tbsp)
160 / 16 / 22 / 00 || Fat Free Milk (2C)

---

423 / 25 / 42 / 16

MEAL 4
150 / 33 / 00 / 01 || Starkist Tuna (5oz)
090 / 00 / 21 / 00 || Dole Mandarin Oranges

---

240 / 33 / 21 / 01

MEAL 5
180 / 18 / 02 / 10 || Sliced Turkey Breast (4oz)
220 / 10 / 38 / 00 || Pepperidge Farm Bread Slice (2)
140 / 06 / 04 / 10 || Cheese Slices (2)
070 / 00 / 16 / 00 || Dole Pineapple Tidbits (1/2c)
030 / 02 / 07 / 00 || DelMonte Sweet Peas (1/4C)
030 / 01 / 06 / 01 || DelMonte Kernel Corn (1/4C)
010 / 00 / 00 / 01 || Fish Oil Capsule (1)
010 / 00 / 00 / 00 || Flaxseed Oil Capsule (1)

---

690 / 37 / 73 / 22

MEAL 6
180 / 28 / 08 / 03 || Swiss Valley Cottage Cheese (1C)
210 / 08 / 06 / 16 || Smucker's Natural PB Creamy (2Tbsp)
160 / 16 / 22 / 00 || Fat Free Milk (2C)

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550 / 52 / 36 / 19

TOTAL: 3423 Calories / 305G Protein (36%) / 312G Carbs (36.8%) / 102G Fat (27.2%)


Set you diet up like this - that way, you can see which meal you should eat if you are 500 calories behind your target or x amount of protein behind your target.

Yeah my diet is a little unconventional but it's worked thus far I mix my protein shake with 500ml of milk so it's quite helpful in me reaching my daily protein requirement lol. I'll work out the macros sometime this weekend - but I'm pretty sure it is somewhere between 3100-3300 (don't underestimate breakfast smoothies ). Thanks anyways. Will keep you in the loop

I don't mean to be the bad guy here...I honestly don't..
but hormonas I think you wasting your time...his just a smart kid that thinks he knows it all and he doesn't really want help...
he just wants us to tell him it's ok to do a dbol and cycle and that clomid is a great pct drug then I'm sure he also thinks steroids are miracle drugs and you turn into a machine over night...

If I thought I knew everything and didn't want help I wouldn't be asking for advice? I'm not planning on cycling until I think I need to in order to grow. "Our objective with this website is to educate our visitors about the correct and safe way anabolic steroids should be used"? No need to be bitchy about it.

No one is bitchy, read your first to last post and then you will understand what G-man meant.

OK I'm going to lay it out.

You need a proper diet. Go pay for one, because it's a lot of work.to figure it out yourself.

You can't do dianabol only.

Clomid alone is not adequate PCT.

There are sample cycles here along with PCT protocols.Use that and stop listening to a buddy of a buddy That knows a guy who can get stuff that will make you huge.

That's all.

Ok yes upon doing a little more research I can see how my first post might have come across as somewhat retarded. I did say I would make a sample cycle and post it after doing a little more research. @Mason I probably should change my diet a little. The thing is due to my metabolism I have to eat quite a ridiculous amount everyday so I try stick to foods I enjoy (long-term it probably won't be sustainable though). Otherwise thanks for the feedback

@CCP92, if you struggle with calories, mieliepap is good for carbs (krummel, very dense calories) or dry oats, nut /seed pastes are good for fats, and whey is purest protein. Whole milk is a good all rounder like you mentioned. Not a fat loss/fitness diet but seems to meet your goals.

Furk wrote: @CCP92, if you struggle with calories, mieliepap is good for carbs (krummel, very dense calories) or dry oats, nut /seed pastes are good for fats, and whey is purest protein. Whole milk is a good all rounder like you mentioned. Not a fat loss/fitness diet but seems to meet your goals.

And healthy fats. Add a table spoon of oil or nut butter to your meals and the caps really add up.

I hadn't considered mielepap, will definitely look into implementing it in my diet I get oats as well as peanut butter in via my meal replacement shake (2 scoops whey protein, 1 cup oatmeal, 2 cups milk, 1 tbsp peanut butter, 1 banana).

Yip, pap is cheap and perfect for post workout meal.

For your height you can still gain a solid 10kg muscle mass before trying a cycle.

You should really look at your diet. cant built a house without bricks man.

A small pizza is not a meal unless stacked with two chicken breasts...

CCP92 wrote: Thanks for your response. Yeah I probably should have done a little more research before posting that haha. I'm 175 cm currently at 72kg. I'm an ectomorph so I am on a hypercaloric diet (I eat around 7 meals a day - i.e. every 3 hours or so). As for the PCT I was considering Clomid? Do you have any better suggestions?

buddy, this is my opinion and nothing else:

not sure why you are thinking of a diana cycle only... waste of time! most guys wanting to ask about that is imo scared of injecting, it is not a big deal to inject!

dianabol works great, but to get you started.

get your diet sorted, training sorted en bliksem the beginner bulking cycle...