final addition (tbol)

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25 Mar 2015 14:49 #183629 by lobo
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Hi guys

Unfortunately my cycles coming to an end I have just over a week left of test c and about 3 weeks on masteron. Was wanting to add tbol in to finish off starting today at 40mg ed for 6 weeks then go straight into pct. Would it be worth my while or do u have any other suggestions? Should I be running test prop when 12 week test c is done?

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25 Mar 2015 15:10 #183631 by Oupiel
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Masteron Propionate or Enanthate?

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25 Mar 2015 15:18 #183632 by lobo
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Oupiel on mast prop 100mg eod for 2 weeks now.

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25 Mar 2015 15:35 - 25 Mar 2015 15:36 #183635 by Oupiel
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You could run test prop in parallel to maintain constant blood T levels.

If you were running ~500mg/week Test cyp, your wait time to PCT is ~36 Days from last shot.
You could run the test prop to day 21 from your last Test Cyp shot - leaving 14 days till stat of PCT.

You can bridge with Tbol @ 40mg/day till day 34.
PCT starts on day 37.
But that's 5 weeks of orals.
Depending on other orals used in this cycle, that might be a bad idea to run that long?

That's all in theory.
Don't know what else you've been using, at what dose for how long?
Also don't know your stats, so guessing a mg/kg body weight isn't happening.

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25 Mar 2015 16:34 #183636 by lobo
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Oupiel ran test c 3ml / wk alone till I added the masteron didn't use any orals this cycle was my first so wasn't sure what to expect. Sounds good what u saying will the tbol be beneficial? What dose of test prop would u recommend?

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25 Mar 2015 18:19 - 25 Mar 2015 18:23 #183642 by Oupiel
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As its your first cycle, maybe keep it simple.

But you already went there & added the Masteron :whistle:
So if you must, go with Tbol as discussed - personally, if I were you, I wouldn't.
If you do, maybe add some liver support - read up on it a lot.

Out of interest, give us an update on your stats from start to now.
how did this cycle go for you so far?

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25 Mar 2015 20:51 #183651 by lobo
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Oupiel thanks a lot for ur advice always appreciated. Bro been a learning experience for me will do things a bit different next time but overall been awesome if only could be on year round. Havnt weighed since I started but going by the eye made some solid improvements with minimal sides didn't need any AIs. Not sure why but strenghth gains weren't massive. Certain muscles responded better and dropped fat on the stomach. Mentally also did a lot of good for me. Just hoping pct goes well then looking forward to the next want to give equi a try.

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25 Mar 2015 20:54 #183655 by Mason Might
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Going to eat on equi! :lol:

When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.

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25 Mar 2015 21:14 #183657 by Oupiel
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Don't be shy, you're anonymous :whistle:

Tell us what went wrong?
When you screwed the pooch?

What went well?
What you will do different next time?

It will help everyone learn/remember.
Lots of 1st timers will appreciate your input.

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26 Mar 2015 08:59 #183666 by lobo
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Like u said earlier in my cycle more calories so I reckon the equi will do me good then next time round.
Bro thanks for all ur advice and input along the way this forum has been awesome. Lots of knowledge here.

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26 Mar 2015 14:50 #183705 by lobo
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Oupiel the problems came from not planning properly before getting started with regards wot I was going to run and how my diet was going to look winged it a bit but then again the best way to learn is to try something urself and then one will know what should be changed to do it better next time round.

Didn't know how important diet was and should of kickstarted with somthing because test took awhile to do its thing doses on the low side in the begining to. also only started hcg late in the cycle bout a week ago which was wrong.

Gonna go with wot u said and get some test prop and run the tbol for 3 weeks starting tom.

Thanks again bud

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27 Mar 2015 09:15 - 27 Mar 2015 09:19 #183718 by Oupiel
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You are welcome :cheer:
Just pay it forward with those that need it.

"Best way to lean is to try something yourself"

Sure I'll try a unicycle.
I'll let you try Crystal-meth & and the effects of close range gunshots, and you let me know how that works. :evil:
Just saying :whistle:

But seriously:

Learn as much as you can before you try
Learn to consistently apply what you learnt i.e. exercise physiology, nutrition - not bro-science.
Take a good measure for a starting baseline - weight, measurements, BF%, bloods, weights lifted, etc.
Then start.

That way you can see/measure what the hell is going on.
you can make informed/educated decisions.
and if all goes to hell, others here can help analyse the details & help.

DON'T EVER WING IT WITH YOUR BODY OR HEALTH.
like go for a personal best squat @ 150kgs, when you have only been doing leg press prior to this.
That injury will ruin you for life.
Same with drugs, etc.

Not shitting on you, just prompting you to get it right first time.
All the info you need is here, online.

Not like when I was diving in head first and making very dumb/uninformed choices.
There was no web, only bro-science and a tatty 10th hand copy of the underground steroid handbook.

I'm tempted to start a new thread where we can list all the dumb, stupid, mad!!! sh1t we did - I'll start.
Any takers?

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27 Mar 2015 10:24 #183720 by lobo
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Ya I learnt the hard way with the recreational drugs still trying to recovery would be silly to make the the same mistakes with anabolics. Sensible advice there oupiel understand wot u trying to get across will definately use it and be more responsible with the cycles going forward.

Will use my time off to gain more knowledge on the best way to go about safe steroid use if there is such a thing and getting the most out of them.

Shot for looking out for me. B)

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