Super fast metabolism - help needed!

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18 Feb 2015 22:11 #181546 by Beginner82
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Advice needed please!

Been training for the past 4 years with minimal gains. I eat like a horse but have the fastest metabolism ever. It is pretty much impossible to put up weight - other than around my midsection if I eat too much sweet stuff / carbs.

Age: 32
Height: 1.86cm
Weight; 82kg
Body fat: 13%

Typical meal plan (during the week):

6am: Protein shake (1 scoop Biogen ISO-Whey Premium)
8am: 200g oats + 50g blueberries
10am: 6 egg whites or a protein shake
12pm: 250g protein + 200g carbs + unlimited green veg (normally broccoli, beans, zucchini or cauliflower)
3pm: 250g protein + 100g carbs + unlimited green veg
7pm: Post workout protein shake
8pm: 250g protein + unlimited green veg (no carbs)
10pm: Protein shake before bedtime

I tend to eat whatever I want on Saturdays and Sundays - in MASSIVE quantities! Not many people can wolf down the quantities I can. Trust me. Still the only weight I seem to pick up is around my midsection - not muscle.

I work out 3 times per week for an hour with my personal trainer.

Tue: Chest and back
Thu: Legs and arms
Sat: Shoulders and chest

I trail run 10km on Mon, Wed and Fri - a very steep route up a mountain. Sundays are for resting.

I can lose weight incredibly easily - just need to do cardio everyday and avoid desserts (my favourite guilty pleasure)

Over the past year I have gone through 25kg of USN Fast Anabolic Growth and 3kg Dark Matter. Still very little notable change! I take creatine daily and have also just started taking glutamine. Changed Dark Matter to Biogen ISO-Whey. Not sure if it will be any better but came highly recommended by a bodybuilder friend.

I am getting desperate and considering juicing to help me along.

A colleague told me to try Anavar as first port of call. Is it safe? Effective? Not keen to run into issues further down the line.

Any advice from the experienced gents on here?

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19 Feb 2015 09:44 #181560 by Mince
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Hi man

Im in a similar issue also have a fast metabolism.
I actually went and cut down on my cardio and i left my trail running aswell.
If u have a quick metabolism u have to unfortunately decide what your goals are staying lean or bulking. If you decide to try to pick up weight drop the cardio or make it less like 5 min instead of 20 min it helped me alot. Another thhing i did was start eating.

7am: 200 g mince and 200g patato
inbetween Protein shake
10am: 200 g mince and 200g patato
inbetween Peanuts as snack
Lunch: 200g steak/ 200 g chicken mince with cup of rice and veg
2:45 before gym: 200g steak/ 200 g chicken mince and veg
3:15 100g oats
after gym protein shake with creatine and glutimine
6pm: 200g steak/ 200 g chicken mince sweet patato
before bed teaspoon peanut butter with protein shake

But i must say i picked up alot when i started with my cycles after cycle you would have 10kg extra but i would loose another 5kg.

My first cycle was dbol, Test cyp and then nolvadex for pct was a very basic cycle

Hope it helps i went from 74kg to 90kg in 3 years i started my cycles only last year when i was on 80kg

hope the info helps
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19 Feb 2015 10:06 #181562 by Hudlim031
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Beginner82 wrote: Advice needed please!

Been training for the past 4 years with minimal gains. I eat like a horse but have the fastest metabolism ever. It is pretty much impossible to put up weight - other than around my midsection if I eat too much sweet stuff / carbs.

Age: 32
Height: 1.86cm
Weight; 82kg
Body fat: 13%

Typical meal plan (during the week):

6am: Protein shake (1 scoop Biogen ISO-Whey Premium)
8am: 200g oats + 50g blueberries
10am: 6 egg whites or a protein shake
12pm: 250g protein + 200g carbs + unlimited green veg (normally broccoli, beans, zucchini or cauliflower)
3pm: 250g protein + 100g carbs + unlimited green veg
7pm: Post workout protein shake
8pm: 250g protein + unlimited green veg (no carbs)
10pm: Protein shake before bedtime

I tend to eat whatever I want on Saturdays and Sundays - in MASSIVE quantities! Not many people can wolf down the quantities I can. Trust me. Still the only weight I seem to pick up is around my midsection - not muscle.

I work out 3 times per week for an hour with my personal trainer. Maybe this is part of your problem. Why not up the number of days you lift focussing more intensely on a muscle group and do less cardio.

Tue: Chest and back
Thu: Legs and arms
Sat: Shoulders and chest

I trail run 10km on Mon, Wed and Fri - a very steep route up a mountain. Sundays are for resting. I'd leave some of cardio but then also cut out all the sweets (that you say tends sit on your midsection) keep your body clean and healthy rather. Steady progress mate.

I can lose weight incredibly easily - just need to do cardio everyday and avoid desserts (my favourite guilty pleasure)

Over the past year I have gone through 25kg of USN Fast Anabolic Growth and 3kg Dark Matter. Still very little notable change! I take creatine daily and have also just started taking glutamine. Changed Dark Matter to Biogen ISO-Whey. Not sure if it will be any better but came highly recommended by a bodybuilder friend.

I am getting desperate and considering juicing to help me along.

A colleague told me to try Anavar as first port of call. Usually, no Is it safe? Yes it is. Effective? For your goals, no Not keen to run into issues further down the line.

Any advice from the experienced gents on here?


If you feel you want to try AAS, go for a simply test only cycle. Or even beginner bulking cycle. Although I'd recommend you eat healthier and rather up your calories by using more supplementation and eating more food instead of eating sugary carbs.

My 2c

It's simple, if it jiggles, it's fat. - Arnold Schwarzenegger
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19 Feb 2015 11:37 #181568 by Pyroclasm
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Your diet has too many shakes and from an inferior brand. Very important to replace those with whole foods. The biggest concern here is your training. You are not training every muscle to complete positive and negative failure or with enough intensity and I can tell this without even knowing the details. I would suggest five days a week weight training where you zone in on each muscle group with intensity. Focus on the compound lifts and then do isolation training. You are not growing because your muscles are not put under enough stress.

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19 Feb 2015 13:39 #181573 by Mason Might
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Take Pyro's advice...

Also what are the caloric values of the diet you posted?

When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.
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19 Feb 2015 14:34 - 19 Feb 2015 14:35 #181575 by Rhino
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Plus WAY to much cardio if you want to gain muscle.
And you need to add a load of carbs post workout

Go big or go home...
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19 Feb 2015 15:53 #181583 by p1et
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That diet needs some healthy fats.
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19 Feb 2015 16:00 #181585 by p1et
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And not to start an argument but alot of people has gotten great results from 3day training splits. Especially for bulking. So i wouldn't shoot it off that easy.
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20 Feb 2015 01:43 #181590 by Beginner82
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Wow thanks this has been the best forum I have ever posted to! Thanks all for the super helpful advice. You guys make it feel a lot less intimidating than I imagined.

Basically I should eat a LOT more and do a lot less cardio / running. Also start splitting main body parts into separate days at the gym,

What protein shake should I try? Brands?

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20 Feb 2015 01:47 #181591 by Beginner82
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What brands would you recommend?
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20 Feb 2015 10:04 #181604 by Pyroclasm
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www.bssa.biz everything is super but get their choc whey isolate. Otherwise SSN or Evox whey is fine.

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20 Feb 2015 10:08 #181605 by Pyroclasm
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pr0gr3s1v3 wrote: And not to start an argument but alot of people has gotten great results from 3day training splits. Especially for bulking. So i wouldn't shoot it off that easy.


If you are an advanced user who knows how to make the three day split work then you won't be asking the questions like this brother is and your username won't say beginner. I am saying that for this case the best advice is to split training days as suggested. I am not saying the concept of a three day split is bad. Just like if someone new to BB asks about GH I will tell him to leave it, even though I know GH is a powerful tool when you have the knowledge to use it right.

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20 Feb 2015 11:21 #181611 by p1et
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Actually the 3day split is for bigginers. It consists of all the basic compound movements which you want, without all the auxiliary bullshit. The real problem is the cardio on the other 2 days and weakend. The point i was making is the 3day split is not the reason for not gaining weight as per original post. This is diet related.

It seems like alot of food due to most of it comming from carbs. Im way to lazy to go work it out but seems clear that calorie wize he is not getting enough.

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20 Feb 2015 11:28 #181613 by p1et
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Taken from www.bodybuilding.com/fun/beginner-to-adv...der-in-12-weeks.html

"For example, some pro bodybuilders train only one major muscle group each workout. That's it.
So on Monday, they might train chest; on Tuesday, back; on Wednesday, legs; on Thursday, shoulders; and on Friday, arms; with abs thrown in on one or two of those days for good measure. This would be considered a five-day training split.
Splits come in all sorts of variations, but specific splits are better at certain points in your training evolution. The pro bodybuilder's example above isn't right for a beginner; it's not the best way to gain size and strength at that point.
The key is adjusting your training split as you advance. We've done some of the heavy lifting, by telling you what to do and when to do it. The rest is up to you."

This is one of hundreds of guys thats been in the business for long endorsing 3day split programs for bigginers.

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20 Feb 2015 11:42 #181618 by Pyroclasm
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If history has taught us anything it's that the majority are normally wrong. I never listen to people who have been things for 100s of years because doing something wrong for many years doesn't make you an expert. For example In the 90s many people who have been in the business for 30 years suggested 250mg Test per week with Deca @250mg along with Nolvadex throughout the 15 week cycle. Normally not too worried about PCT. Were they correct?

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20 Feb 2015 12:15 #181621 by p1et
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Ok bro. Like i said im not going to argue just for the sake of saying something. Guess all the nasties who have had great results from this was mislead.

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