primobolone

Hi Guys , i am new on this site and really need some of u to help me out,I Have been reading some of the threads and get nothing on primo. i really wanna use i mean (cycle) some of this and i mean only primo ,I don't wanna be huge,just really wanna go the safe way,and just to add i don't really no anything about roids,i was just watching some youtube videos and have been in the gym for 3 months now. Any way i just wanna no do i have to do the pct after cyceling primo aswell? if so what do i use? and how? and can i still use creatine? :S

Go read the article sections on the site.. go look at sample cycles .. however, 3 months and you want to now use steroids ? You need to put much more time in the gym before you go that route

Macman wrote: Hi Guys , i am new on this site and really need some of u to help me out,I Have been reading some of the threads and get nothing on primo. i really wanna use i mean (cycle) some of this and i mean only primo ,I don't wanna be huge,just really wanna go the safe way,and just to add i don't really no anything about roids,i was just watching some youtube videos and have been in the gym for 3 months now. Any way i just wanna no do i have to do the pct after cyceling primo aswell? if so what do i use? and how? and can i still use creatine? :S

Forget about gear completely. You are clueless. U don't even know the all the basics of training and diet yet.

Do research, tons of it. Gear not something to take lightly y

Educate yourself first and learn the basics. Get your diet and training nailed before even thinking about gear.

Fully agree with mcj

Okay look i get what u guys are telling me , i don't wanna give u my full history about training before , but i have done muscle building before for +- 3 years and and had to drop it due to some problems i had any way i started again and its now 3 months , i really have a passion for muscle building,why don"t u guys give me some guidelines , tell me for how long must i train? before i can use primo,and my plan is not to bulk at all just want slow but solid gains and to loose the man boobs and belly fat i got in this long break i had and plz don't be so hard on me guys

Macman,

If you want the guys to "not be so hard on you" then READ and LEARN. Why should the guys spend time to construct answers when you do not have the common courtesy to first learn and thus be able to ask INFORMED questions.

"I really have a passion for muscle building why don't u guys give me some guidelines , tell me for how long must I train?"

That's passion???? Bullcrap. That's a lazy whiny entitlement attitude right there. If you had a passion you would be scouring this and several other sites picking up training tips, trying them out seeing what works for you.

You "did muscle building for 3 years before". Clearly you didn't learn a fkn thing. Because even with the basic compounds exercises you will build muscle. Do you even know what the basic compounds are?

But yes, the guys won't be hard on you because they'll actually ignore this and not bother. That is why you only have 5 replies. And they have been very civil about it too.

As for "finding nothing on Primo". Bullshit. Use the search function. There's plenty on this and hundreds of other forums.

You're looking for the "easy" road. There is no easy road. If there was, every one would look like Phil Heath or a Men's Health Cover. This is a lifestyle. It is dedication. You need to be 150% on good days and 110% on bad days. It means eating clean. Eating right. No drinking. No partying. Early nights and early mornings.

The first thing you would realise if you read is that DIET is the single most important factor.

You want to lose the man boobs and belly fat then start off with 5 sets of "STOP EATING SO MUCH CRAP".

If your BF% isn't at least under 15% AAS's shouldn't even be a consideration. Because if you can't do the diet thing properly are you disciplined enough to follow a cycle regimen because you can't decide half way through you're tired and don't feel like training today or for a few days.

Anyway, stop being a whiny bitch. READ, read some more, then some more and when you think you've read up enough, read ten times more. Learn the physiology of your body. The pharmacology of the drugs. Why each drug has a specific purpose. Why you do PCT.

Then come back, post your stats, diet and training plan and once the guru's here see you've put in effort they will gladly help and offer advice. But do not expect to be spoon-fed.

+1 Cyclo

Cyclo wrote: Macman,

If you want the guys to "not be so hard on you" then READ and LEARN. Why should the guys spend time to construct answers when you do not have the common courtesy to first learn and thus be able to ask INFORMED questions.

"I really have a passion for muscle building why don't u guys give me some guidelines , tell me for how long must I train?"

That's passion???? Bullcrap. That's a lazy whiny entitlement attitude right there. If you had a passion you would be scouring this and several other sites picking up training tips, trying them out seeing what works for you.

You "did muscle building for 3 years before". Clearly you didn't learn a fkn thing. Because even with the basic compounds exercises you will build muscle. Do you even know what the basic compounds are?

But yes, the guys won't be hard on you because they'll actually ignore this and not bother. That is why you only have 5 replies. And they have been very civil about it too.

As for "finding nothing on Primo". Bullshit. Use the search function. There's plenty on this and hundreds of other forums.

You're looking for the "easy" road. There is no easy road. If there was, every one would look like Phil Heath or a Men's Health Cover. This is a lifestyle. It is dedication. You need to be 150% on good days and 110% on bad days. It means eating clean. Eating right. No drinking. No partying. Early nights and early mornings.

The first thing you would realise if you read is that DIET is the single most important factor.

You want to lose the man boobs and belly fat then start off with 5 sets of "STOP EATING SO MUCH CRAP".

If your BF% isn't at least under 15% AAS's shouldn't even be a consideration. Because if you can't do the diet thing properly are you disciplined enough to follow a cycle regimen because you can't decide half way through you're tired and don't feel like training today or for a few days.

Anyway, stop being a whiny bitch. READ, read some more, then some more and when you think you've read up enough, read ten times more. Learn the physiology of your body. The pharmacology of the drugs. Why each drug has a specific purpose. Why you do PCT.

Then come back, post your stats, diet and training plan and once the guru's here see you've put in effort they will gladly help and offer advice. But do not expect to be spoon-fed.

Hard harsh but true. Dude make an effort and use that thing called Google and read read read. Make notes if u must. Gear is one of the LAST options when u stop making progress and u need more than the basic diet, training and supplementation

I think maybe he should find himself a trainer. I foresee him not really doing the research and either hurting himself or wasting his and everyone's time.

No need to be so rude to the guy.

@Macman, I agree with 00pump's advice and think more research from your side is required before you will be ready for AAS. However, if you have questions while doing your research you are welcome to ask. Don't stress about the harsh replies, just read past the rudeness and see it as constructive criticism.

Okay thanx to all of u , i just decided not to do roids at all its just to dangerous but will still log in time and again to read about what u guys are talking about, this is a very cool site and thanx for helping so many people, speak to u guys again in the future.

Macman wrote: Okay thanx to all of u , i just decided not to do roids at all its just to dangerous but will still log in time and again to read about what u guys are talking about, this is a very cool site and thanx for helping so many people, speak to u guys again in the future.

Ye bro they can be dangerous.. but so can disprin.. you have the right idea about looking for doing things the safest possible way and the least amount to achieve the desired results. It's good that you seeing them as dangerous, that shows a mature attitude and shows you will respect them when you do decide to use them.. keep your eye on the site, learn, use your knowledge to educate those that are using that you know of and in a year you will probably be in the perfect place to use a short cycle and if you find you experience a side effect stop, if you respect the compounds, you will probably experience nothing but a sense of well being and some great results ..

Sweet

The best start is to read the dieting section. Read every thread and soak in the info like a sponge. Diet is the real magician and not steroids or fatburners.

You also want your muscles to be used to working out regularly before even thinking of using gear. If you don't then you won't get long lasting results. Prime your body for now through getting into the routine and when you start hitting plateu's and you know your diet is looking good and your training is intense then look at juice. It'll be the thing that pushes you through the plateu and that's what you want.

admin wrote: No need to be so rude to the guy.

@Macman, I agree with 00pump's advice and think more research from your side is required before you will be ready for AAS. However, if you have questions while doing your research you are welcome to ask. Don't stress about the harsh replies, just read past the rudeness and see it as constructive criticism.

My apologies admin. I in no way intended to be rude to the chap. Just worried about guys who don't learn more before diving in deep end.

I remember my first post years ago on another forum...I knew fuckall. thought one injects into artery like a druggie. So I've been where he is now.

Thanks MCJ