Steroids and hypertension.

Hi. I am 35 been weight training for 3 years, 107 Kg, 187cm. This is my second steroid cycle ( 400 TestE and 400 Deca pw). I tried to front load with DBOL but I could feel that my blood pressure shot up and I stopped taking them. My gp is a bit old school and when I told him that I was taking steroids he told me to stop immediately. Any advise on bringing blood pressure down ? should I double my hypertension medication ? or go find a gp that is willing to help ?

What are your BP readings ,, and what hpertension meds are you on?

Won't be able to suggest anything without that very important info. Mostly, the long acting ACE inhibitors are indicated, and even better the ARB class.
Remember your BP increase is ASS dose related - stop the AAS and BP returns to previous levels.
By the way, some Pro's use ACE inhibitors to diet with, leads to less water retention due to Renin-Angiotension-Aldosterone axis suppression.

And you will have to look very far and wide to find a GP that knows enough about ASS. Old School, New Age - it doesn't matter. In my Pharmacology book there is only ONE page spent on Anabolics - ONE!! . That was in my Third Year Varsity. I asked my Professor then what his opinion was on the subject and all he said was "Tell the boy his balls will shrink" . And that was it - end of lesson. What I know today, I gathered myself, reading up on the subject as much as possible.

I have used Ziac ,,

but I've found when on juice just taking some dandelion root 2wice daily keeps me within acceptable levels ,, It's a natural diaretic ,, don't know the science behind why it helps BP ,,, think water retention is one of the contributors to high BP,, so less water retention = lower BP..

but then mine never get crazy bad ,

Bat, who the $%#@& prescribed you Ziak? That's a Beta-blocker/diuretic combination. Beta-blockers is WHAT you Don't want to use when building muscle. Remember Clenbuterol, ect. with B2 and B3 receptor stimulation? Now, Ziak precisely blocks those receptors! Very counter-productive. Then there is the definite link between Beta-blocker use and late onset Type II Diabetes...
And not even to mention your dick that will constantly hang south........

Yeah,,

thats why I don't use it anymore,, only after using it did I do a little research on beta blockers (I know Reckless) ,, but without somebody experimenting there will never be progress

No one prescribed it for me, I self medicate, no doctor would prescribe me the stuff I want.

Funny thing is a friend of mine - the current WPF mr universe , was prescibed it by his doc... thats why I tried it,,, but I found it's actually not necessary for me,, I measure my BP fairly often,, and it sometimes gets a little high but like I said nothing that dropping a little water doesn't sort out

I have given your friend a lot of advice lately - ask him what I prescribed for him pre-contest to relieve his abdominal bloatedness....

Hi

My BP was 170/120 while on dbol. I have stopped the dbol’s and it’s a lot better now 140/90. I am taking a generic med KLODIP-5.

Cheers
Morne

Klodip-5 is fine - generic amlodipine, calcium channel blocker. Personally would have preferred ACE inhibitor or ARB.
Just check for side effects of ankle oedema and Gastro-oesophageal Reflux - if you start having these, change to the classes I have mentioned.

170/120 OMG thats high

Hi,
What do most steroid users average above their norm?
I used to be around 110-120/75-80, +-. Now on Test Prop100mg EOD/Anavar 40mg/day and around 130-138/80-90 depending on whether i add some ECA(Heat) or not. Wasp(Yohimbine bark) doesn't really affect me negatively.
The thing is that i can "feel" the pressure.
Sometimes my temples swell up when i eat chewy food as well!?!? Goes away directly after i stop, almost a muscle-pump - weird.
Im in line to add some NPP to the mix. How much extra pressure can i expect, if any?
Thanks

those levels aren't that bad for a bodybuilder on cycle,, Weird thing what you say about your temples,, I get that exact same thing when I eat biltong or winegums, ,, my temples get Pumped,, people actually notice it and ask me wtf is wrong with me..