Lawsuits against popular whey protein products

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19 Mar 2015 19:58 #183284 by Pyroclasm
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According to this article, popular brands like Muscle Pharm are loading their products with cheap fillers and amino spiking methods. According to the claim, MP only delivers 19g Protein of the promised 40g, which is 44% of what is on the label.

www.forbes.com/sites/alexmorrell/2015/03...ipping-off-athletes/

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19 Mar 2015 20:11 #183286 by FIllet
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That's why I opt for whole clean food. Dont trust most of these dick fucks. Dont even use creatine anymore. Juice and food, that's it...
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19 Mar 2015 21:03 #183292 by donkiekong
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But MR. Fillet don't you even trust BSSA ? At least they are pure products without fillers and sugars atc.

No matter how many "tests" nutritech and all the rest do I still have a feeling that its not 110% spot on correct because if someone ever found out the truth no-one will ever again by there products that's just my own opinion

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19 Mar 2015 21:10 #183294 by FIllet
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Without details dk, whole foods and labs you can trust is most important. All this whey and bcaa I have tried for years, no different. Juice and clean food made me what I wanted to be
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19 Mar 2015 21:15 #183295 by donkiekong
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You are speaking true word sir , supps will never take the place of whole food

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19 Mar 2015 22:54 #183301 by Oupiel
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What's your thoughts on Dischem's tested products?
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19 Mar 2015 23:20 #183302 by Mason Might
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Oupiel wrote: What's your thoughts on Dischem's tested products?


Good marketing :P

The truth of the matter is that nutritional information is not regulated and tested enough.
I question the accuracy of most products on shelf.
Supplements are under scrutiny because it's target market are a bunch of calorie counting, Protein calculating, pedantic arses.
Whole fresh food is the only way to be certain, but it's not always an option.
When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.

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20 Mar 2015 09:22 #183311 by GFORCE
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What about superior products like Optimum Nutrition ?
I also prefer using whole foods , but its not always convenient and some of us don't always have the time to prepare foods in the kitchen , that's why I use a combination of both natural and superior products

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20 Mar 2015 09:37 #183314 by Mason Might
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ON is a league of its own...
When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.

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20 Mar 2015 10:14 #183318 by donkiekong
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And in a price range of its own , with that money guys waist on ON whey I'd rather buy my self whole food an more roids hahaha

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20 Mar 2015 10:23 #183321 by Oupiel
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Poundstone Chicken Shake for anyone??? :sick:
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20 Mar 2015 10:40 #183324 by Furk
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Give me some eggs and beef!

Thanks for the link Pyro. Agree with Fillet, but I have some trusted supp. supliers that I use from time to time. For everything else, there's what can be hunted, farmed, picked, fished or plucked.

@donkiekong: That's why I only go for raw supps. I think BSSA is doing a good job.
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20 Mar 2015 10:44 #183325 by donkiekong
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I quite like BSSA but the price has came up since they became well known

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20 Mar 2015 10:50 #183327 by Mason Might
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It's expensive to bring the products in...
I looked at doing something similar and the capital outlay is huge. Best leave it to them ;)
When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.

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20 Mar 2015 11:33 #183330 by Oupiel
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So here's some questions question:

So what's the issue with amino-spiking???
Have they not just eliminated the need for digestion?
Does this cause an insulin spike?? (apparently Whey protein does)
or am I missing the full picture??

Assuming that:
Protein is just a combination of various amino-acids.
Depending how these amino-acids are combined it could be GH, HCG, IGF-1 or snake venom!

Digestion of protein:
When exposed to stomach acids, proteins denature rapidly.
When exposed to digestive enzymes, they are broken down into their constituent amino-acids - only then can they be absorbed into the blood steam.

Once in the blood, they are transported to our cells & absorbed, where they are used for energy or building blocks.
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20 Mar 2015 12:50 #183349 by Hudlim031
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Interesting read:

labdoor.com/rankings/protein
It's simple, if it jiggles, it's fat. - Arnold Schwarzenegger
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23 Mar 2015 08:53 #183472 by VXM
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Furk wrote: Give me some eggs and beef!


Words to live by.

The looks on peoples faces when you answer the question of how many eggs a day you eat :P

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23 Apr 2015 11:58 #184832 by PumpSeeker
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I was supplement shopping over the weekend and a certain shop told me they only stock International brands because the likes of SSN, Evox, USN, etc aren't tested enough. Nutritech is the one exception. What u guys think? Because generally buying international brands can be pricey but is it worth it to know it's tested properly? :dry:

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23 Apr 2015 14:48 #184839 by Oupa
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You should tell that supplement shop he is talking kak. Nothing wrong with SSN.

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23 Apr 2015 15:51 #184845 by Muscleaddict
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The best advice a supplement salesman can give you is to never listen to supplement salesmen.
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23 Apr 2015 15:53 #184846 by Oupa
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Muscleaddict wrote: The best advice a supplement salesman can give you is to never listen to supplement salesmen.


:lol: :P :cheer: :woohoo: :lol: + 1
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23 Apr 2015 20:54 #184852 by PumpSeeker
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23 Apr 2015 22:18 #184853 by Pyroclasm
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Muscleaddict wrote: The best advice a supplement salesman can give you is to never listen to supplement salesmen.


Every time I go into Disschem they feel like debating with me about thy Biogen is super better than SSN.

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24 Apr 2015 11:24 #184861 by Furk
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Hey come on now guys, they are useful: They tell me what's in stock without me wasting my time searching for something ;)

Worst experience I've had is a GNC in Australia. I seen they are opening branches in SA now :( Overprized sups, foolish staff (my experience at least).

But to get back on topic, I honestly think you cannot compare USN to SSN, or even Evox.
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24 Apr 2015 12:57 #184871 by endocrinology
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For supplement consultants it's all about targets cause then they get the commission.

I know dischems had a commission structure change recently and it's not per brand targets anymore now it's about total sales in supplement aisle.

I also don't really listen to the Supplement consultants but some have degree's in sports nutrition and dietetics.
So I always ask "what qualification do you have?"
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