Drug testing in BBing SA

Hey guys, I developed this question on another thread (the MGE one) but didn't want to highjack it so posting here.
What exactly is the level of drug testing at competitive south african bodybuilding events? Does it change with the level of competition? Does it change between federations? Is it set to change for 2010?

Thanks

As far as IFBB south africa is concerned, there is no testing involved, Bill Slater told me this.
But, at the Fame contest that was held begin October, there was some testing involved, not too strict, but if you look juiced, they test you and you're out, spoke to a competitor in the Muscle Model class.

Why test in the 1st place as we all know all competitors juice?? This is so strange, seeing as this is a sport based on aesthetics etc. This is just another stunt to make the federations seem more legit with the other sporting federations and with WADA. Bull I tell you...my 2c

I agree missiondh.
Natural and "enhanced" BBers should compete separately, they can't force the "enhanced" class (as its been all along) into being tested all of a sudden.

The sport has grown so nicely over the last couple of years and if they start testing the newer competitors will think twice before wanting to compete if they're juiced up.

Body building as a sport will never be main stream so why screw with the couple of guys that pursue it as a passion and for the pure love of the sport.

IFBB SA will start testing from next year... thats the reason for the SARMs being distributed locally.

admin wrote:

IFBB SA will start testing from next year... thats the reason for the SARMs being distributed locally.

:woohoo: :cry

YYYYY?????

freakin sucks

missiondh wrote:

Why test in the 1st place as we all know all competitors juice?? This is so strange, seeing as this is a sport based on aesthetics etc. This is just another stunt to make the federations seem more legit with the other sporting federations and with WADA. Bull I tell you...my 2c

FAME is supposed to be a natural comp so they test. they test for _everything_ and though I know many juice...

IFBB has done random drug screening. And they have a natural section where you have to weigh in between X and Y based on height, etc... That is tested as well, and its fair as a police friend of mine competes in that section and is clean, so it would be unfair for him and others if they never conducted tests.

It seems that IFBB's testing differs from region to region...

admin wrote:

IFBB SA will start testing from next year... thats the reason for the SARMs being distributed locally.

Ah, I see now, so the heads in the IFBB are actually involved in the selling of these SARMs...

00pump wrote:

IFBB has done random drug screening. And they have a natural section where you have to weigh in between X and Y based on height, etc... That is tested as well, and its fair as a police friend of mine competes in that section and is clean, so it would be unfair for him and others if they never conducted tests.

So if they already conduct random testing from time to time what is changing going into 2010? Frequency? Adherance to rules?

Inja wrote:

Does it change with the level of competition?
Does it change between federations?

Is the level of drug testing different between federations or pushed more in certain classes at competition?

couple of things...if fame does test which they dont,they only screen,all them guys will be out for use of duretics..!!!
then ifbb worlds do test ask shameen he got 3 DQ...
as for local testing in ifbb,if ur unknown ul be DQ but if you have a name with the federation they will let it go im almost cetain of this coz how are you going to DQ the top 6 in every category at nationals...and to be fair they have to test all top 6..!!!
if this is going to happen then condition is going to be very shit on stage for the years ahead and guys will opt to enter the other federations shows coz they know they will be in the clear....

so untill sarm's is main stream here,we have a bit of a problem i think...
even if we get sarm's there is just some stuff we cant without before a show in my opinion like stanazolol,clen...
clen is out quick but stan is orally supose to be 3 weeks who can stop stan 3 weeks out and stay hard for 2 shows over say a spread of 5/6 weeks.
what about clomid and nolva and proviron in the last stages of a proper cycle coz by wada thats also banned...

we dont have money for GH as our sole product what will we do???

think this is an very nice topic and alot of us can learn off this for next year as to what the doping controls is going to be like...ive been around many sports pro's over the years and they all find ways around the doping controls from rugby,boxing and mostly cycling.
but they dont need half of half of half what a good conditiond guy on stage needs to prep with in order to stand there to his full potential....

im getting sarm's ASAP to try it out and see how it compares to real AAS....

Will also be helpfull if one of the more cleud up members can get us the latest detection times for all steroids as over the years now testing must have improved cutting into our windows of detection...!!

I see, so we're saying newer competitors run a higher risk of being tested and this increase in testing for 2010 is unique to IFBB.

quadboy wrote:

couple of things...if fame does test which they dont,they only screen,all them guys will be out for use of duretics..!!!
then ifbb worlds do test ask shameen he got 3 DQ...
as for local testing in ifbb,if ur unknown ul be DQ but if you have a name with the federation they will let it go im almost cetain of this coz how are you going to DQ the top 6 in every category at nationals...and to be fair they have to test all top 6..!!!
if this is going to happen then condition is going to be very shit on stage for the years ahead and guys will opt to enter the other federations shows coz they know they will be in the clear....

so untill sarm's is main stream here,we have a bit of a problem i think...
even if we get sarm's there is just some stuff we cant without before a show in my opinion like stanazolol,clen...
clen is out quick but stan is orally supose to be 3 weeks who can stop stan 3 weeks out and stay hard for 2 shows over say a spread of 5/6 weeks.
what about clomid and nolva and proviron in the last stages of a proper cycle coz by wada thats also banned...

we dont have money for GH as our sole product what will we do???

think this is an very nice topic and alot of us can learn off this for next year as to what the doping controls is going to be like...ive been around many sports pro's over the years and they all find ways around the doping controls from rugby,boxing and mostly cycling.
but they dont need half of half of half what a good conditiond guy on stage needs to prep with in order to stand there to his full potential....

im getting sarm's ASAP to try it out and see how it compares to real AAS....

Will also be helpfull if one of the more cleud up members can get us the latest detection times for all steroids as over the years now testing must have improved cutting into our windows of detection...!!

thats like saying they must test all top 6 placed Olympic runners, they don't ... they take the winner, knock him give second place, even though second place is also on some or other performance supplement, evidence to this 'Bigger, Stronger Faster' FAME I know 100000% tests as a few of my friends enter it...

But I do agree with you that could / do turn a blind eye to some of the faces they know, hence my friend is NABBA and IFBB champ and was only tested many years back...

00pump i know the guy who placed second in both catagories this year personally,he didnt get tested and if he did he would've been caught for a list of things including tren test winstrol equi and stanazol...

strange, I have not followed it for 2 years, so things could have changed... maybe due to turn out or something, i'm not sure...

sorry for my ignorance

i have only been following it for 2 years so lol... yea just not happening hey,guys arent getting tested so they taking long lists of stuff...

Hey guys, anything been confirmed yet on the testing this year?

I strongly believe that should IFBB start testing in SA a lot of Body Builders are going to compete under other federations. IFBB SA is going to lose a lot of Body builders by doing this. No one wants to be labeled as a juicer publicly.

Another thing if this did have to happen than people would have to stay away from oils such as deca and equi as these stay in ur system for longer... So its gonna be a litle tricky to get around it...guess their is SARMs but prefer old school oils.

If it does happen the standard is gonna be the worst we've seen in years!
just wish we had somme definitive news

ummm at the end of the day,they are going to test the top 6 of every line up,5-6 line ups in a night at a cost of ummmm R2000 per test. thats looking at 60k... the whole ifbb isnt worth that in this country...they need to rethink that...

djeasye wrote:

ummm at the end of the day,they are going to test the top 6 of every line up,5-6 line ups in a night at a cost of ummmm R2000 per test. thats looking at 60k... the whole ifbb isnt worth that in this country...they need to rethink that...

lol...
so then at worst it will be a random selection of a few guys?