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I was reading through some of the old threads and there have been lots of questions on letrozole as it seems lots om newbie steroids users seem to opt for letrozole as there choice of AI
I saw one post where there was explained that 3 drops of letrozol = 3mg and that there is no difference when with letrozole at 2.5mg and 3mg
So I am assuming that if you wanted to run your letrozole on cycle E3D at 2.5mg that would mean you use 3 drops E3D
Sorry for this silly question but I am sure that someone out there does not fully understand the letrozol dosage so I'm sure this would come in handy with newbies opting for letrozole as there AI and this would lead to less letrozole dosage questions in the future
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I hope you understand the point I am trying to make and that I'm trying to help out a bit
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Letro has its place for example it can be effective at reversing bad cases of gyno.
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donkiekong wrote: I saw one post where there was explained that 3 drops of letrozol = 3mg and that there is no difference when with letrozole at 2.5mg and 3mg
No no no, 3 drops of Letrozole is 0.3mg and not 3mg as you state.
There is a moerse difference between 0.3mg and 2.5mg of Letrozole. A low dose of Letro like 0.3mg is effective with minimal side-effects and as long as you don't use it for long periods you don't have to worry about the horror stories we sometimes read about Letro.
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Chem1 wrote: I wouldn't have anyone (including a newbie) take letrozole as their on cycle AI because it's too harsh on the body. Even if it was cheaper, which I'm not sure it is, I still wouldn't use it.
Letro has its place for example it can be effective at reversing bad cases of gyno.
I advise newbies every single day to keep Letro on hand, in fact I advised a newbie this morning. As long as you take a low dose when required there is no greater risk from taking Letro compared to something else like Adex.
Letro is considerably cheaper and a bottle of the liquid stuff lasts ages since you need very little at a time.
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admin wrote:
Chem1 wrote: I wouldn't have anyone (including a newbie) take letrozole as their on cycle AI because it's too harsh on the body. Even if it was cheaper, which I'm not sure it is, I still wouldn't use it.
Letro has its place for example it can be effective at reversing bad cases of gyno.
I advise newbies every single day to keep Letro on hand, in fact I advised a newbie this morning. As long as you take a low dose when required there is no greater risk from taking Letro compared to something else like Adex.
Letro is considerably cheaper and a bottle of the liquid stuff lasts ages since you need very little at a time.
Absolutely, used acutely when required for gyno problems should be fine. However the OP was talking about running it E3D throughout a cycle. Based on my research there are better options available.
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I'm asking because I want to learn from your views and it might help me provide better advice to others as well.
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Almost every guy you see in virgin active has something bad to say about letro how its harsh on the body and you have to stay away from it atc. But 99.9% of all that they are hearing is bro-science
I am talking out of experience because I am a personal trainer at a well known virgin active
Letro got a bad name from people that don't know how to use it and over dosed the substance because they think more is better , and that's not the case with letro , a little go's a long way
As admin said 0.3mg ( 3 drops ) is effective with minimal side effect and in the liquid form , it would last you ages
So won't it be a good use of money to buy letro and use it at very low dosages?
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But I not necessarily advising people don't use the stuff on cycle I'm just saying I think there are better options. That's all.
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Fortunately I have plenty of personal experience with Letro on cycle to know that it can be used in such a manner that it is not much worse (if any) than other AI's.
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donkiekong wrote: So won't it be a good use of money to buy letro and use it at very low dosages?
It is, it's the best AI of them all when you compare side-effects and value for money on a LOW dose taken every couple of days.
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I run .3mg EOD on all my cycles(the last one being 6 months on) and have never had an issue with sides.
The only time I've had sides from letro is when other AI haven't been effective and I've had to switch to Letro at a VERY high dose to catch the Gyno before it got out of hand.
It all boils down to how Gyno prone you are and frankly I'd rather have a Gun at a knife fight than vice versa
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Here are 2 very experienced people with real world experience with letro and not having any problems with it even on a long cycle (rhino's 6 month cycle)
So letro 3 drops , low dosage , on cycle as your AI is good to go
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I have also read that other AI's are better, like Aromasin, from personal experience I can say that Aromasin isn't bad, but letro is more effective.
I have run letro at 20 drops a day and the sides were bearable.
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Rhino wrote: It all boils down to how Gyno prone you are and frankly I'd rather have a Gun at a knife fight than vice versa
Agree with this. If I was highly prone to get gyno I'd consider using letro throughout my cycles. Thankfully I'm not.
I do think though that too many people just throw ancillaries in throughout a cycle in an unthinking way. It's quite common for most people to do a 500 test cycle with no need to run an AI. Even up to 700mg. Should itchy nipples arise they can knock estrogen back with a dose or two a week with Adex or often just reducing the estrogen activity at the nipple with some low dose Nolva.
Also I think one reason some people seem to need more AIs than should be has more to do with their body fat levels than it necessary does with the conversion solely from the AAS.
Form a bodybuilding standpoint estrogen plays an important role in muscle building. I think a lot of people probably crush E levels too much and actually hinder gains. This has a higher chance of happening with incorrect usage of letro.
All in all I prefer adjusting my dosing of adex depending on how aromatizing my cycle is. And bring in nolva if required for gyno sides. This is also where I'd put letro (in replace of nolva) if I had to put it anywhere.
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Donkiekong you shouldn't even be thinking about gear or cycling until your BF is much lower. I say don't cycle unless you can see your abs and from what your other thread says at 20% that's a good while off for you.
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Were all different
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Rhino wrote: If it's your first cycle just keep it on hand learn about your body and only use it if needed.
Yes, I agree and that is exactly the advice I give first timers. Letro in my opinion is perfect for this job, it's affordable and it's powerful, but still safe if used at low dose when needed.
However, just like Rhino I also use Letro during cycle due to my sensitivity to oestrogen and I've never had issues with a low dose. I also agree that one shouldn't eliminate oestrogen during a cycle at all, but that is the point of only taking a low dose and even skipping a day or two between doses.
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Adex is far superior in my opinion at sorting out your entry level Gyno signs, I can use a low dose, side effect free to combat things like itchy nipples etc. without removing too much estrogen. (My adex price from supplier makes it worthwhile to keep on hand)
Letro i definitely keep for higher dosed cycles tho...
I recommend a lot of guys onto Adex for early signs, I do feel it's alot less harsh on my system. And guys with tissue forming and lumps will I advise Letro, works like a bomb for the severe Gyno effects.
But each to there own, low dose Adex or low dose Letro... Moderation and manipulation of doses can always yield your preferred outcome.
Just my reports and experiences.
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I may be wrong but I think I read it a while ago
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Only time i get gyno issues is when i use 10 liter tren a day
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My N=1 experience, clearly others will differ based on their own sensitivity.
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