My first cycle log

hey guys so iam close 2 weeks into my cycle, thought it would be a good idea to log it.

ok so this is my cycle.

1-10 test cyp 500mg
1-4 test prop 300mg think i might extend it to 5.
10-15 winny + proviron 50mg

stats

19yrs old
6ft
currently 81.1 kg but 4 weeks ago i weighed 78.6
3/4 years natural but first 1 or 2 with rubbish eating and training inconsistently.
11-12 percent body fat (estimation) will get it done at virgin soon.
anything else just ask.

ok so these last 2 weeks have been great, i really think the test prop kicked in quite fast i had strength increase by day 4 unless its all placebo. iam looking bigger and more vascular i honestly didnt think i would see much results within 2 weeks .my goal is kind of like a lean bulk, well thats what i tell myself but iam eating like a BEAST.
my gears is evolve currently but ive order my pgw gear and will switch to that as soon as i get it.
will post pics soon.

i realy am expecting some great gains

What do you mean by:

1-10 test cyp 500mg
1-4 test prop 300mg think i might extend it to 5.

whats 1-10 and 1-4 mean?

To be honest for a first cycle I would suggest "Bread and Butter." . . "Deca and sus."

NB: Cyp and Prop are from the same family together with Enanthate. The only difference with prop is its fast acting ability.

Beastropin a simple test cycle is a bread and butter first cycle,u don't need to complicate things with 2 injectable substances, yes and the point of combining a short and long ester togerher creates your own sust blend of fast and slow esters.

Week 1-10 and week 1-4 is what he means.

Ok. disagree totally with only running test.

Ok let's put it this way,as males we produce testosterone, not nandrolone, testosterone on its own causes gyno,easily sorted out with an ai, deca also causes gyno,not so easily sorted out out with things like bromocriptine or dostinex, now u taking deca and test and get gyno,how do u distinguish between it been progerstone or estrogen based gyno and deal with it if u've never taken a simple test cycle to distinguish between possible side effects?

You can Run a test only cycle and have no side effects on that occation. Yet maybe run it again later on and have side effects. You cannot try something and if it works out fine just rule out side effects.

Nb... 90% of the side effects are due to dosages. Not the actual substance.

I don't agree with you at all,guys get gyno on 300mg of testosterone and 30mg of dianabol a week. That's very low dose.

Suppose it is possible, but I feel it highly unlikely.

Bro if you are gyno prone to get gyno from say dianabol you will get gyno issues if you use 20mg or if you use 100mg daily, u can't change the fact that dianabol can cause gyno,same with testosterone, guys can gyno from 300mg a week, not only high dosages,I know 4 guys that can't take more than TRT dosage of 150mg a week with out getting gyno,so gyno is substance related and not only dosage related.

Ok.

You seem to have read alot that get said here. Whats your take on HGH?

Beastropin, i strongly disagree with your view on this... Why would you want to complicate your first cycle with unnecessary compounds? Determine first how your body responds to the basics, testosterone. Also why add in nandrolone and complicate your recovery? A first cycle of test only is perfect and you will grow well if your diet etc is in check. Hell the last cycle I ran was a test only cycle of enanthate at 1000mg per week, and it was beautiful. One of the best cycle experiences i've had

The problem with test only cycle is the receptor down grade.

I dont say it doesnt work.

And u not gonna have receptor down grade from nandrolone and test? U gonna get receptor down grade from any substance you use,no just test. But please explain your logic that test only downgrades your receptors?

Ok will do but thats one heck of a long explination needed.

I'll see if I can copy and paste from my sources.

I ran previous cycles Sus/Deca at high dosages 1000/400 and also cycles of Test E at high dosage,started a beginner testcyp(250mg every 4th day) cycle now with a trusted lab and man was I surprised,Test only,much better than with a lot of stacks,I say it also depends on the gear.Nothing wrong with Test only!

Beastropin wrote: Ok will do but thats one heck of a long explination needed.

I'll see if I can copy and paste from my sources.

Please do. There is zero scientific evidence on that from published clinical studies so I'm interested to know what your information sources are. There isn't even evidence that the androgen receptor downgrades at all, only speculation based on other evidence.

looks like i might be ending the cycle.

why?

CHAPEL wrote: why?

its quite personal and not something i want to talk about.

i was so excited for this and now i have to delay it even further...nothings going my way at the moment..

cheerz

shit happens. Hope it comes right, cheers.

manery wrote: looks like i might be ending the cycle.

If my cycle log was also hijacked this badly I'd also stop my cycle :lol:

what do you guys think would be a apropriate for pct with a cycle like this, i was only on for 2 weeks... maby just nolva or clomid??

can someone help me?

Hi bro sorry to hear about the misfortunes. I would add hcg just to be safe

no clomid and nolva is fine