Beginners Lean Mass Cycle Questions !

Hi, im new to the whole steroids thing, but i want to start with the Beginners Lean Mass Cycle.
I dont know where to start...
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2) How do i start using it ?
3) Where does the supplements come in ?
4) How long should I gym ?
Confused with all the different types of steroids out there and what to buy with this cycle.

Admin or someone with exp, plz reply.
Thanks for your time !

btw I did alot of researching about the products, i need some clarification and guidance.....

You are not allowed to ask for sources

And judging by some of the questions , you haven't done enough research on it . Get a good diet and training programme and you will make good gains . And in the mean time do some mor research and stick around , you will learn a lot

Bud your diet and supplementation program should be spot on before u should even consider a cycle,without that in order u won't even grow naturally let alone on steroids..your training sessions should be 50-65mins long max! If u are taking longer u are resting to long between sets. U should be training for at least 2 years before considering a cycle.

Hey man how about posting your stats?
age,weight,bf%,training history,diet.
we need background to help

age 21
gym almost 2 years
bf about 20kg or less
weight about 80kg
i'm on 100% whey & ssn crea-pump.
addicted to gym no problem.
i want to get big but first i want to get lean muscle, in other words i don't want to loose half or all my muscle that i worked on. i've got my body to where i want it for now and want to take it to next stage.

Sleon, i'm not an idiot. i've got a pretty good idea of whats what. thank u very much.

all due respect bud, but if you an idea you would not be asking these questions. take what advise you get here as constructive critisism, dont take it personal and be a bit modest and listen amd youll be big in no time

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Ok you need to get your diet spot on and get some eca or clenbuterol or both and use it to cut down your fat.

andre300 i've got no idea what u just meant by the last statement.

VonD wrote: Ok you need to get your diet spot on and get some eca or clenbuterol or both and use it to cut down your fat.

thanks, but none of my questions have been answered yet....

Well at 20kgs of body fat u are honestly not ready to start your cycle. Post up your diet meal for meal so we can see where u are going wrong to start....

ok lets starts..

1-you are not allowed to ask for sources on the site.at your gym look for a big guy and make friends he will probably be able to hook you up.

2-You start by doing a beginner cycle to see how you respond to the steroids.But you want to cut down so go for HEAT and a CLENBUTEROL cycle to cut down on fat.get your diet 110% to ensure you dont lose muscle.

3-Supplements are a critical part of your bodybuilding.protein and dextrose after workouts to help you from going catabolic and to help you consume enough protein without eating 2kg of chicken a day.you can use glutamine for recovery but if you are on steroids its not needed cause the steroids will do that for you.Pre workouts are there to give you energy and a pump mainly.Its a personal choice if you want to use one or not or which brand.

4-you should gym between 45-65min max.

ask if you want to know more on a particular topic.

At your body fat level i would suggest staying away from steroids and cut down first.

i eat 3-4 times, light meals like tuna, eggs, bananas, anything with protein in and low carbs.
i have 1 heavy workout session of about 65min everyday, drink whey and creatine before workout and after workout, about 70g of protein intake both times. i do short sets of 8 reps,
day 1 : incline, decline, level - bench press then bicep curl.
day 2 : mill press, upright, latz, behind neck.
day 3 : preach curl, tricep ext, rev curl, inner curl
day 4 : back general, trapz, front row, rear raise, rev Flex.

thats about it.

we need the quantities you eat of every thing weighed out to see where the problem is.I can already see you are not eating enough and not the right food .where is the potatoes,dextrose,nuts ect.you need to eat 6 times a day.i eat 8 times including post and pre workout meals.I cut with 255g of carbs its a lie that you need to cut out all carbs to lose weight.your workout routine is not right imo.
i do 4 sets 8-12 reps

this is more or less mine:
Day 1 Chest-flat bench,incline bench,flyes,cables
Day 2 Back-lat pulldown,deadlift,dumbell row,barbell row,seated row
Day 3 arms-barbell curl,hammer curl,dumbbell curls,cable curls.dips,tricep ext,skull crushers rope pushdown.
Day 4 Legs-squats,legpress,leg ext,leg curls,lunges
Day 5 Shoulders-dumbbell shoulder press,front raises,side raises,upright row, and some rear delts flyes if you want,shrugs

i do calves on day 1,3,5 and abs day 2,4.
if you can't train 5 days combine chest and tri's and back and bi's

Hey Koularas. First of all welcome to the site bud. I know the feeling of wanting to use steroids for the first time, you think you have been gymming hard enough and eating correct (i did). But let me tell you, your not ready to use it yet. I changed my diet and training program and I got MAJOR results.

So the best place is to start of with your diet, as you described it, it sounds like you just eat food without weighing it and eating incorrect portion sizes. Go check under "Dieting and contest prep" and take a look at the Dieting topics (those that have a red pin next to it) and follow that to create yourself a diet.

Next we have training/exercise. It it maybe possible to do a 5 day training program, because your current program need some work.

Please note, it might sound like I am a bit harsh. I am not, just trying to help you out

Koularas wrote:

VonD wrote: Ok you need to get your diet spot on and get some eca or clenbuterol or both and use it to cut down your fat.

thanks, but none of my questions have been answered yet....

That's because there questions you could of easly found the answers to if you do some more research, there is so much info all over the net, google is your friend.

Your diet needs more calories,as this is where your shortfall is,also you aren't doing enough work for each muscle group and also when do u train legs? At the moment u can get away with a 3 day a week training split : monday chest and biceps, wednesday quad hamstings and triceps, friday back and shoulders.

Monday start with bench press,then dumbell press then dips followed by alternating dumbell curls and then incline bench dumbell curls.then do some calves.

Wednesday start with squats,leg press,stiff leg dead lifts followed by tricep push downs and then skull crushers.then do some abs

Friday start with dead lifts,then bent over barbell rows then pull ups then do side lateral raises,up right rows then dumbell shoulder press. Followed by calves.

U need only do 2-3 heavy sets per exercise 8-12 reps. Moving your training to something like that to start is the best basis for starting to train properly and correctly! Remember to always keep your form strict and your weight heavy...


Your diet,go into the diet and contest prep section,I have writen many threads on how to create a diet...

yes, I do legs but not that much. well thanks from all the info i'll check out the topics and setup my diet plan. if any more comes up ill ask. btw how do i contact someone personally to meet and so on ?

Koularas wrote: yes, I do legs but not that much. well thanks from all the info i'll check out the topics and setup my diet plan. if any more comes up ill ask. btw how do i contact someone personally to meet and so on ?

If you finished your diet plan post it on the forum, so we can crit it and check if it's correct. You will not be able to contact someone bud.

@Koularas - looks like u need to drop ur body fat first before starting a bulking cycle. Can see from ur pic that u not below 15% body fat. U also asking to get spoon fed. U have not done research. Make sure u do enough research surrounding diet and training.

Your training and diet should be on song for at least 8 months before thinking of doing a cycle.

Im not being a cock im just saying how it is.

SNOK1986 wrote: @Koularas - looks like u need to drop ur body fat first before starting a bulking cycle. Can see from ur pic that u not below 15% body fat. U also asking to get spoon fed. U have not done research. Make sure u do enough research surrounding diet and training.

Your training and diet should be on song for at least 8 months before thinking of doing a cycle.

Im not being a cock im just saying how it is.

thanks, but i know this now. i need to work out a diet plan maybe today i'll start.
i went and read the forms on diet and still a bit lost, i'll figure it out no problem.

Dude print everything out and read it a few times. When you done with it post it here so we can crit it

@iMan Apologies for hacking the thread, your profile pic looks awesome, and you recon thats all natural + diet alone

Ontong wrote: @iMan Apologies for hacking the thread, your profile pic looks awesome, and you recon thats all natural + diet alone

Thanks! Jip al natural and my diet was spot on bud. It's a bit difficult to eat correct now, because I am on holiday so I have to eat my mom's food (still clean, but too little)