Turinabol/Testcyp/Var cycle

Hi Guys

Starting planning my next(2nd) cycle:

Day 1-25
40mg Turinabol Daily

Day 1-77
Testcyp 250mg twice a week so every 4th day, last pin on day 77

Day 80-105
40mg Anavar Daily

Day 106-112
2 x Clomid 50mg Daily

Day 113-131
HCG 500iu Every second day

Day 113-142
20mg nolvadex daily



Stats-
71 KG
8 % body fat
1.7m tall
Mesomorphic shape

Goal is Lean mass.
I see many say Var should be at least 50mg daily but I figure I am not the biggest oke so 40mg should be ok for me?
Should I start HCG earlier?

Please give your thoughts?

Also, going to keep diet pretty simple. Oats and eggs in the morning. Whole wheat Rice and chicken 4 times a day. Salad or veg with chicken/beef/fish for last meal. I was told I didn't eat enough during my last cycle about a year or so ago. So how much is enough?? I can calorie count if needed but would prefer a simpler method if possible.

Cycle looks pretty good,all your timing is correct except for your bridge period, the waiting period of test c is 36 days. Concerning the HCG it would be better to start at around week 4 but nothing wrong with using it in your pct.

Var is good at 40mg,but 60mg could be a bit more beneficial.

There are more experienced members that can help with your diet but at the end of the day you will have to calorie count or at least have an idea of how much you're getting in.

Depending on some factors I had to guess:
Maintain- 2611 calories
Gain 20% - 3193 calories

Cycle looks sweet mate. You can probably push Var to 60mg. I feel 80mg is the limit of diminishing returns.

Agree with Jono77's comments.

Thanks Guys

Ok cycle update just to be sure I have this perfect and understood...Let me know?

Day 1-25
40mg Turinabol Daily

Day 1-77
Testcyp 250mg twice a week so every 4th day, last pin on day 77

Day 28-46
HCG 500iu Every second day, last pin on day 56

Day 79-110
60mg Anavar Daily

Day 111-112
40mg Anavar Daily (so I can buy two 50 x 20mg bottles and finish them)

Day 113- 119
Clomid at 2 x 50mg

Day 120-149
20mg nolvadex daily

Looks good, HCG you could do 250iu twice a week and run it into your bridge. Remember to keep an AI on hand in case of gyno.

Good luck and keep us updated.

Cycle is sweet. i have a lot of guys coming to me with crazy first cycles involving deca because someone told them it's a good cycle. i try my best to change their minds and recommend the exact cycle you doing.

simple yet effective.

good luck buddy and enjoy.

Hi Joscar,

I just started my first cycle and was about to make my first post here and run my cycle past the members.

After spotting your subject and reading your thread, I was surprised to find that we have the exact same cycle planned (our days match to a T)

I'm running my HCG from Day 28 to Day 112 (250iu every 4th day). Possibly increasing the dosage to 1000iu p/w for the last two weeks (read the suggestion on another thread)

Anyways, I will still open my own thread and wish you all the best!

Hi Clark

Thanks for the wishes bud. How is it going? I am 3 pins in so far. Definitely feel the strength gains and I look a lot fuller already.

Must say though a day or two ago I woke up with slight head aches. I thought maybe it is just a bit of dehydration. I drink a lot of water but whatever, drank more. But this morning my headache was killer and I definitely am not dehydrated.

I pinned yesterday morning.

I am taking milk thistle too. Going to double the dose. Any advice anyone?

I am glad my title caught your eye. That was the plan! I would be very interested to compare stats and gains that? Please feel free to share my thread as your own if you like.

The Headaches will pass after a few days. If your going to think and look for sides, you will end up being a little moaning bitch.

I do like a good moan I won't lie!
But no really they got bad. I was ignoring them at first but one morning I was on the brink of throwing up from a beating head! I found that taking the Tur RIGHT AFTER food helped the issue. Been good ever since.

Thanks Oupa

Up 2kgs on day 13 so far. Serious strength increase too.

HAHA @ moan

Hey Joscar,

Things are going good on my side. Doing my 6th pin tomorrow and its not getting any easier to stick the damn needle in!

In fact, I was also experiencing some headaches (not as bad a you by the sound of it) but luckily it ended on Thursday.

I've been trying not to monitor my gains each day and to just train hard, eat right and forget about it. This morning my curiosity got the better of me and I took my InBody measurements (Planet fitness) which I also took on the day before I started my cycle.

So far my strength increased by about 10%-12% (I was expecting a bit more), but it's my change in measurements that blew my mind. I mean, I did feel my clothes were starting to get a bit tighter... but didn't expect a 6kg increase! This cycle is going to be much more costly than expected and I will have to go start shopping for a new wardrobe.


My stats before:
Age: 35
Height: 187cm
Weight: 91.6kg
Skel Muscle Mass: 45.6kg
Fat%: 14%

Stats today:
Age: 36
Height: 187cm
Weight: 97.4kg
Skel Muscle Mass: 50.2kg
Fat%: 11.2%

I was rather conservative with increase of calories and I was only on a +300cal surplus. I recalculated my MBR today and adjusted my meal plan to +350cal to see if I can hit that 100kg mark.

Awesome results so far man! I am curious about your skeletal mass climbing so much. I've never heard of that.

I also put on a shirt the other day and was convinced it had shrank! But the weirdest thing for me is I sleep with one pillow, but now my shoulder makes my head too high from my pillow. I have grown a whole pillow in size lol.

I am a month in now. No more Turinabol. 7 Pins done and start HCG with my next Pinning day. I must say I really don't mind the needle hey. Just aim it up and just slowly push until the needle is all the way in. I like that I can definitely feel it going through the layers and into the muscle so I am dead sure its intramuscular. I am alternating butt cheeks and have no issues. I tried a shot in each thigh though and that was horrible. My quad was really painful the next day or so for each leg.

I am eating myself silly. Around 3300-3500 Calories a day. I am burning around 2800-3000 daily.

My body fat is now under 7% now and I weigh over 74 kg.

Oupa wrote: The Headaches will pass after a few days. If your going to think and look for sides, you will end up being a little moaning bitch.

Never heard or experienced headaches before, is it common?

edit: I mean with regards to steroids.

Yes it is

Nose bleeds are also common but usually shows you to check blood pressure

Just an update:

Finished with the test and about a week into the bridge.
I now weigh 80KG and look muscular AF. Thats about 8-10 kg gain of lean mass.
My six pack is not as prominent as it was during the Turinabol days but I think I still have a bit of water retention.

Hi Joscar

You've obviously done this Cycle years back, but can you remember if it was a good "2nd Cycle"?

My First Cycle was sort of the same, 300mg Testocyp 12-14 weeks; 40mg Turinabol per day for the 1st 6 weeks; Then PCT1

Would you recommend your 2nd Cycle or is there something you would change?

Infinity wrote:

Hi Joscar

You've obviously done this Cycle years back, but can you remember if it was a good "2nd Cycle"?

My First Cycle was sort of the same, 300mg Testocyp 12-14 weeks; 40mg Turinabol per day for the 1st 6 weeks; Then PCT1

Would you recommend your 2nd Cycle or is there something you would change?

You are asking someone a question that has not been active on the forum for 2 years, don't expect him to reply.

Infinity wrote:

Hi Joscar

You've obviously done this Cycle years back, but can you remember if it was a good "2nd Cycle"?

My First Cycle was sort of the same, 300mg Testocyp 12-14 weeks; 40mg Turinabol per day for the 1st 6 weeks; Then PCT1

Would you recommend your 2nd Cycle or is there something you would change?

give me your stats, age, weight, calorie intake and lifting experience, and i can help you change it up. probably a whole lot of things you could change that will give you a decent course.

Hi @Empire..

I wanted to ask you for help, not sure why I didn't. Thank you so much..

Ok my stats:
38 Years old

Weight: At the moment I'm 78kg (I was on a 10 week cut - Started at 86kg). I've been on Maintenance for the last 4 weeks to Maintain, will probably stay on it for another 2 weeks, will do a Deload in the 2 weeks time.
Calorie intake at the moment (On Maintenance):
Training Days: 2460
Protein: 170
Fat : 60
Carbs :310

Might bump it up a little bit next week.

Non training days are a bit less:
Protein: 170
Fat : 60
Carbs :215

Been lifting for about 5 years

The below was my 1st Cycle:



300mg Testocyp per week: 12-14 weeks

40mg Turinabol per day for first 6 weeks

PCT1

Thank you once again for your help, I really do appreciate it

I forgot to add:

I'm 1.96m
So tall and skinny, built like a praying mantis

So sorry.. I didn't even notice

Infinity wrote:

Hi @Empire..

I wanted to ask you for help, not sure why I didn't. Thank you so much..

Ok my stats:
38 Years old

Weight: At the moment I'm 78kg (I was on a 10 week cut - Started at 86kg). I've been on Maintenance for the last 4 weeks to Maintain, will probably stay on it for another 2 weeks, will do a Deload in the 2 weeks time.
Calorie intake at the moment (On Maintenance):
Training Days: 2460
Protein: 170
Fat : 60
Carbs :310

Might bump it up a little bit next week.

Non training days are a bit less:
Protein: 170
Fat : 60
Carbs :215

Been lifting for about 5 years

The below was my 1st Cycle:



300mg Testocyp per week: 12-14 weeks

40mg Turinabol per day for first 6 weeks

PCT1

Thank you once again for your help, I really do appreciate it

 

What is your goal here? What kind of physique do you want to build? What were your results from your first cycle like -  before and after stats?